* Adding tags, grouping tags
@ 2010-10-14 18:22 Karl Maihofer
2010-10-15 5:55 ` Noorul Islam K M
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From: Karl Maihofer @ 2010-10-14 18:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
I'd like to define many many tags and use numerics (1-0) as selection
keys. I want to define tags for different clients, people, gtd-contexts,
and other contexts. So I had the idea to group the tags (less than ten
tags per group) to be able to define selection keys for every tag.
I already use groups for my custom agenda views (see example below). So
when I hit C-c a, Org only shows the agenda groups (besides the default
agenda commands) and I do not get to the actual agenda commands until I
hit Q. This enables me to use the keys 1, 2, 3, 4 several times for
different agenda commands (in different groups).
Example:
(setq org-agenda-custom-commands
'(("Q" . "Custom queries") ;; gives label to "Q"
("Q1" "Archive search" search ""
((org-agenda-files (file-expand-wildcards "~/archive/*.org"))))
("Q2" "Website search" search ""
((org-agenda-files (file-expand-wildcards "~/website/*.org"))))
("Q3" "Projects and Archive" search ""
((org-agenda-text-search-extra-files (file-expand-wildcards
"~/archive/*.org"))))
;; searches both projects and archive directories
("Q4" "Archive tags search" org-tags-view ""
((org-agenda-files (file-expand-wildcards "~/archive/*.org"))))
;; ...other commands here
))
Is something similar possible for adding tags?
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* Re: Adding tags, grouping tags
2010-10-14 18:22 Adding tags, grouping tags Karl Maihofer
@ 2010-10-15 5:55 ` Noorul Islam K M
2010-10-15 8:29 ` Karl Maihofer
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From: Noorul Islam K M @ 2010-10-15 5:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Karl Maihofer; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Karl Maihofer <ignoramus@gmx.de> writes:
> I'd like to define many many tags and use numerics (1-0) as selection
> keys. I want to define tags for different clients, people, gtd-contexts,
> and other contexts. So I had the idea to group the tags (less than ten
> tags per group) to be able to define selection keys for every tag.
>
> I already use groups for my custom agenda views (see example below). So
> when I hit C-c a, Org only shows the agenda groups (besides the default
> agenda commands) and I do not get to the actual agenda commands until I
> hit Q. This enables me to use the keys 1, 2, 3, 4 several times for
> different agenda commands (in different groups).
>
> Example:
>
> (setq org-agenda-custom-commands
> '(("Q" . "Custom queries") ;; gives label to "Q"
> ("Q1" "Archive search" search ""
> ((org-agenda-files (file-expand-wildcards "~/archive/*.org"))))
> ("Q2" "Website search" search ""
> ((org-agenda-files (file-expand-wildcards "~/website/*.org"))))
> ("Q3" "Projects and Archive" search ""
> ((org-agenda-text-search-extra-files (file-expand-wildcards
> "~/archive/*.org"))))
> ;; searches both projects and archive directories
> ("Q4" "Archive tags search" org-tags-view ""
> ((org-agenda-files (file-expand-wildcards "~/archive/*.org"))))
> ;; ...other commands here
> ))
>
> Is something similar possible for adding tags?
>
I have something like this shamelessly copied from Bernt's doc.
(setq org-tag-alist (quote ((:startgroup)
("@errand" . ?e)
("@office" . ?o)
("@home" . ?h)
(:endgroup)
("PHONE" . ?p)
("NEXT" . ?n)
("WAITING" . ?w)
("HOME" . ?H)
("ORG" . ?O))))
Thanks and Regards
Noorul
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* Re: Re: Adding tags, grouping tags
2010-10-15 5:55 ` Noorul Islam K M
@ 2010-10-15 8:29 ` Karl Maihofer
2010-10-15 8:35 ` Carsten Dominik
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From: Karl Maihofer @ 2010-10-15 8:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Noorul Islam K M <noorul@noorul.com> schrieb:
> I have something like this shamelessly copied from Bernt's doc.
>
> (setq org-tag-alist (quote ((:startgroup)
> ("@errand" . ?e)
> ("@office" . ?o)
> ("@home" . ?h)
> (:endgroup)
> ("PHONE" . ?p)
> ("NEXT" . ?n)
> ("WAITING" . ?w)
> ("HOME" . ?H)
> ("ORG" . ?O))))
Thanks for your reply! Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't this
"only" effect that if you add the tag @office, than add the tag @home,
the first will be deleted automatically? This is not the kind of
grouping what I am looking for. For me it should - by the way - be
possible to add several tags of the same group.
I'd like to use the same selection keys for different tags. For
example I have the following groups:
Group "people":
- Key "h" -> Holger
- Key "o" -> Otto
Group "contexts":
- Key "h" -> @home
- Key "o" -> @office
To make this possible I think it is necessary to be able to select the
group in the first step, and then the tag you want to assign - as it
is possible for agenda groups.
Any ideas?
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* Re: Re: Adding tags, grouping tags
2010-10-15 8:29 ` Karl Maihofer
@ 2010-10-15 8:35 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-10-15 8:52 ` Karl Maihofer
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From: Carsten Dominik @ 2010-10-15 8:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Karl Maihofer; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
On Oct 15, 2010, at 10:29 AM, Karl Maihofer wrote:
>
> Noorul Islam K M <noorul@noorul.com> schrieb:
>> I have something like this shamelessly copied from Bernt's doc.
>>
>> (setq org-tag-alist (quote ((:startgroup)
>> ("@errand" . ?e)
>> ("@office" . ?o)
>> ("@home" . ?h)
>> (:endgroup)
>> ("PHONE" . ?p)
>> ("NEXT" . ?n)
>> ("WAITING" . ?w)
>> ("HOME" . ?H)
>> ("ORG" . ?O))))
>
> Thanks for your reply! Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't this
> "only" effect that if you add the tag @office, than add the tag
> @home, the first will be deleted automatically? This is not the kind
> of grouping what I am looking for. For me it should - by the way -
> be possible to add several tags of the same group.
>
> I'd like to use the same selection keys for different tags. For
> example I have the following groups:
>
> Group "people":
> - Key "h" -> Holger
> - Key "o" -> Otto
I use TAB and then completion for people. Otherwise you run into
trouble with two people starting with the same name, trusting your
system too far....
- Carsten
>
> Group "contexts":
> - Key "h" -> @home
> - Key "o" -> @office
>
> To make this possible I think it is necessary to be able to select
> the group in the first step, and then the tag you want to assign -
> as it is possible for agenda groups.
>
> Any ideas?
>
>
>
>
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- Carsten
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* Re: Re: Adding tags, grouping tags
2010-10-15 8:35 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2010-10-15 8:52 ` Karl Maihofer
2010-10-15 14:43 ` Ilya Shlyakhter
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From: Karl Maihofer @ 2010-10-15 8:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Hi Carsten!
Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> schrieb:
>> Group "people":
>> - Key "h" -> Holger
>> - Key "o" -> Otto
>
> I use TAB and then completion for people. Otherwise you run into
> trouble with two people starting with the same name, trusting your
> system too far....
Yes, this may be a risk. But the people group was only an example. The
main reason for me pre-defining the tags and using selection keys is
that I use org to archive documents. I'd like to assign tags to this
documents: (1) the names of clients the documents belong to (2) tags
describing the contents ot the files. To make sure that I do not use
different tags for the same thing, it is important to see a list of
the used tags when assigning them. So I have to use pre-defined tags
and selections keys. Do you know what I mean?
Besides that I have tags in other contexts, e.g. GTD-related tags etc.
So it would be very useful to be able to group the tags as it is
possible for agenda commands.
Thanks!
Karl
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* Re: Adding tags, grouping tags
2010-10-15 8:52 ` Karl Maihofer
@ 2010-10-15 14:43 ` Ilya Shlyakhter
2010-10-16 5:32 ` Carsten Dominik
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Ilya Shlyakhter @ 2010-10-15 14:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Karl Maihofer <ignoramus <at> gmx.de> writes:
> Besides that I have tags in other contexts, e.g. GTD-related tags etc.
> So it would be very useful to be able to group the tags as it is
> possible for agenda commands.
I think that a way to define logical groups of tags (or even a hierarchy of tags
-- say with a subtree of tag names?) would be a very useful addition.
ilya
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* Re: Re: Adding tags, grouping tags
2010-10-15 14:43 ` Ilya Shlyakhter
@ 2010-10-16 5:32 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-10-16 19:26 ` Robert Horn
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From: Carsten Dominik @ 2010-10-16 5:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Ilya Shlyakhter; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
On Oct 15, 2010, at 4:43 PM, Ilya Shlyakhter wrote:
> Karl Maihofer <ignoramus <at> gmx.de> writes:
>> Besides that I have tags in other contexts, e.g. GTD-related tags
>> etc.
>> So it would be very useful to be able to group the tags as it is
>> possible for agenda commands.
>
> I think that a way to define logical groups of tags (or even a
> hierarchy of tags
> -- say with a subtree of tag names?) would be a very useful addition.
I can see that this could be useful - but the code is
not in any way prepared to do this, so this would be pretty hard
to implement.
- Carsten
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* Re: Re: Adding tags, grouping tags
2010-10-16 5:32 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2010-10-16 19:26 ` Robert Horn
2010-10-16 20:09 ` Carsten Dominik
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From: Robert Horn @ 2010-10-16 19:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
On 10/16/2010 01:32 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote:
>
> On Oct 15, 2010, at 4:43 PM, Ilya Shlyakhter wrote:
>
>> Karl Maihofer <ignoramus <at> gmx.de> writes:
>>> Besides that I have tags in other contexts, e.g. GTD-related tags etc.
>>> So it would be very useful to be able to group the tags as it is
>>> possible for agenda commands.
>>
>> I think that a way to define logical groups of tags (or even a
>> hierarchy of tags
>> -- say with a subtree of tag names?) would be a very useful addition.
>
> I can see that this could be useful - but the code is
> not in any way prepared to do this, so this would be pretty hard
> to implement.
>
Is it worth exploring use of the properties drawer? The tags in org are
a fairly simple and thus limited structure. The properties drawer can
have a lot more structure with a more controlled environment.
R Horn
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* Re: Re: Adding tags, grouping tags
2010-10-16 19:26 ` Robert Horn
@ 2010-10-16 20:09 ` Carsten Dominik
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From: Carsten Dominik @ 2010-10-16 20:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: rjhorn; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
On Oct 16, 2010, at 9:26 PM, Robert Horn wrote:
> On 10/16/2010 01:32 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote:
>>
>> On Oct 15, 2010, at 4:43 PM, Ilya Shlyakhter wrote:
>>
>>> Karl Maihofer <ignoramus <at> gmx.de> writes:
>>>> Besides that I have tags in other contexts, e.g. GTD-related tags
>>>> etc.
>>>> So it would be very useful to be able to group the tags as it is
>>>> possible for agenda commands.
>>>
>>> I think that a way to define logical groups of tags (or even a
>>> hierarchy of tags
>>> -- say with a subtree of tag names?) would be a very useful
>>> addition.
>>
>> I can see that this could be useful - but the code is
>> not in any way prepared to do this, so this would be pretty hard
>> to implement.
>>
> Is it worth exploring use of the properties drawer? The tags in org
> are
> a fairly simple and thus limited structure. The properties drawer can
> have a lot more structure with a more controlled environment.
I don't think I understand what you mean here. How would that help?
- Carsten
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