From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Jeff Kowalczyk Subject: Re: Org-mode screencasts Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 18:41:36 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <87tylfvnte.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=58910 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OzwAd-0003Co-Uh for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Sep 2010 14:41:56 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OzwAc-0000wm-8I for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Sep 2010 14:41:55 -0400 Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:39335) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OzwAb-0000we-SV for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Sep 2010 14:41:54 -0400 Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OzwAZ-0006lG-PF for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Sep 2010 20:41:52 +0200 Received: from 24-216-252-176.dhcp.mdfd.or.charter.com ([24.216.252.176]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 2010 20:41:51 +0200 Received: from jtk by 24-216-252-176.dhcp.mdfd.or.charter.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 26 Sep 2010 20:41:51 +0200 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Eric Abrahamsen ericabrahamsen.net> writes: > > One thing that would be really excellent is to show keystrokes as you do > the tutorial. I don't know what system you're using, but this link: > > http://screencasters.heathenx.org/blog/2009/04/06/smaller-key-status-monitor/ > > > Rustom Mody wrote: > > mwe-log-commands may be particularly useful for an emacs related > screencast http://www.foldr.org/~michaelw/emacs/mwe-log-commands.el It would be extremely nice for screencasting Emacs to have a configurable input and prompt display similar to the calc trail. Wish list: - stack view of the keystream from view-lossage - annotations (i.e. an overlay) when a binding dispatches a command using the mechanism from mwe-log-commands. - annotations of minibuffer prompts - annotations of keybinding hints The view-lossage stream doesn't use the format one would want for user documentation: C-x b f o o v i e w - l o s s a g e Something like the following would be more like documentation: C-x b [switch-to-buffer] f o o RET [minibuffer input] RET [minibuffer prompt confirm] [visiting buffer] foo M-x [] v i e w - l o s s a g e RET [minibuffer input] [visiting buffer] *Help* The parts in [brackets] are intended to indicate some kind of face overlay. As uncolored plaintext the information is just distracting. Another tool, http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/ScreencastMode has good ideas for keybinding hints and one-key stepthrough. I don't think the typed-text narration style is a good fit for these particular screencasts and their target audience, however. Jeff