From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Achim Gratz Subject: Re: [BUG] [ODT] Annotations break paragraphs Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 07:24:09 +0100 Message-ID: References: <871ub3o6mn.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87ip4f9zqa.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87r4j35ejb.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87ip4fxh1e.fsf@gmail.com> <87k3osg7xg.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59882) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UL6Fl-0006sd-0T for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 02:24:02 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UL6Fj-0001zJ-JJ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 02:24:00 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:47590) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UL6Fj-0001z6-Ce for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 02:23:59 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UL6G2-0003zD-RX for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 07:24:18 +0100 Received: from p4fcf73f1.dip.t-dialin.net ([79.207.115.241]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 07:24:18 +0100 Received: from Stromeko by p4fcf73f1.dip.t-dialin.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 07:24:18 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87k3osg7xg.fsf@gmail.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Am 27.03.2013 16:48, schrieb Nicolas Goaziou: >> So this would be a single P-Block with an annotation inside: >> >> ----8<---- >> There is an annotation by the original author here >> #+BEGIN_ANNOTATION >> I never meant to break this paragraph. >> #+END_ANNOTATION >> in the middle of the paragraph. >> ---->8---- > > It wouldn't allow paragraphs within the annotation. ??? ----8<---- There is an annotation by the original author here #+BEGIN_ANNOTATION I never meant to break this paragraph. But here's a second one in the annotation, still not braking the outer paragraph. #+END_ANNOTATION in the middle of the paragraph. ---->8---- > Anyway, every back-end has its own interpretation of what a paragraph > is. Some back-ends don't even know what a paragraph is. Org cannot fit > them all. That's why Org can't impose its much more restricted paragraph model on backends with different paragraph models. > On the other hand, as the ox-odt patch somehow demonstrates, it is > possible for a back-end to ignore Org paragraph definition and rolls its > own. It requires some additional code, but I'm open to discussion about > implementing tools in ox.el in order to ease the process. Yes, and footnotes with paragraphs... Anyway, for me this is the main sticking point with how Org syntax is defined, because it currently implies Org syntax == Backend semantics, which is simply not the case for most if not all backends. Working around this in each and every backend doesn't look appealing. > In any case, I think we ought to keep raw Org syntax as simple as > possible. The current definition of a paragraph is simple enough. The syntax wouldn't change all that much, except that blank lines would need to be made tokens during parsing. Regards, -- Achim. (on the road :-)