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From: Achim Gratz <Stromeko@Nexgo.DE>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: :EXPORT_FILE_NAME: in new exporter possible?
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 18:39:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <kiq236$vtb$1@ger.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87vc8fa03f.fsf@bzg.ath.cx>

Am 25.03.2013 17:57, schrieb Bastien:
> Can you evaluate my patch against the current state of affair?

The current state of affairs is this:

1. Gnus is doing something it shouldn't do, even though it may once have 
been OK or at least not dangerous.

2. Org doesn't have something that can directly be used in Gnus instead.

The first one's a bug in Gnus, not Org.  The second would be an 
enhancement to Org that might be useful in other places as well, 
independently of the issue with Gnus.

> Evaluating it against your ideal fix will obvisouly make it look
> rudimentary.  But I think it's better than the current situation.

Both solutions rely on Gnus fixing their bug, so we might just as well 
wait until Gnus has done it.  Depending on which way Gnus does this, we 
may be talking different implementations of the second point above.  But 
given that Gnus expects to use a major mode with no setup, why not give 
them this:

(define-derived-mode org-safe-mode org-mode "Org-Safe"
;; docstring etc.
)

and then conditionalize on the value of mode-name instead of an extra 
variable that they should bind?  This would also help to later add more 
"safe" functionality without changing things again and again in Org, 
Gnus or elsewhere.  For example, not running source blocks (we already 
have a way of doing that for export, so it shouldn't be hard to add this).

I'm not arguing against your fix, I'd just prefer we'd start with 
something we just need to extend into a proper safe-mode instead of 
having to start again from scratch after hot-fixing this unfortunate 
interaction with Gnus (and I still don't know how Gnus gets there, anyway).


Regards,
-- 
Achim.

(on the road :-)

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-03-25 17:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-21 13:06 :EXPORT_FILE_NAME: in new exporter possible? Rainer Stengele
2013-03-21 15:34 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2013-03-21 23:15   ` Andreas Leha
2013-03-21 23:23     ` Bastien
2013-03-25  5:45       ` Bastien
2013-03-25 10:09         ` Achim Gratz
2013-03-25 14:57           ` Bastien
2013-03-25 15:09             ` Achim Gratz
2013-03-25 15:54               ` Bastien
2013-03-25 16:13                 ` Achim Gratz
2013-03-25 16:57                   ` Bastien
2013-03-25 17:00                     ` Bastien
2013-03-25 17:39                     ` Achim Gratz [this message]
2013-03-25 18:52                       ` Bastien
2013-03-22  0:20 ` John Hendy
2013-03-22  7:41   ` Rainer Stengele
2013-03-22 14:51     ` John Hendy
2013-03-22 16:04       ` Rainer Stengele
2013-03-22 18:20         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-03-22 14:58     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2013-03-22 15:21       ` Rainer Stengele

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