From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Matthew Jones Subject: Re: Re: suggestions of Android smartphones Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2010 10:50:40 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87zl0zpym9.wl%ucecesf@ucl.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1293723776==" Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1O3sJu-0003cx-7W for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 10:51:30 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=36400 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O3sJs-0003bj-Cu for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 10:51:29 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O3sJp-0006Zc-RA for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 10:51:28 -0400 Received: from mail-qy0-f179.google.com ([209.85.221.179]:60230) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O3sJp-0006ZO-Ls for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 10:51:25 -0400 Received: by qyk9 with SMTP id 9so5564032qyk.1 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2010 07:51:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Daniel Martins Cc: Richard Riley , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org --===============1293723776== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636310205f4efd704849816fc --001636310205f4efd704849816fc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I used swype for about 2 days on my droid before getting rid of it... it's a good concept that needs be iterated on. Trying to use emacs from any of the Android shells is borderline impossible... unless you have a full keyboard to hook up to your Android phone then I would say you should rule out using it in that fashion. One of the features I'm working on for the MobileOrg beta (along with being able to capture notes and change todo states) is a home screen widget that will show your Agenda or Todo list, this way you don't have to open the application to view or adjust these items. 73, Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB) http://matburt.net On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Daniel Martins wrote: > The device I was tantalized to buy was the > > Motorola Quench > > maybe mainly for Swipe feature > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWpqsDnXIOY (at about 1:00) > > or maybe for the price (in Brazil is about 500 USD while the Milestone > is about 780 USD. I know both are outrageous prices in American or > European terms!). BTW the Quench in Brazil DOES NOT seem to come with > the swype feature... > > In fact, I doubt I could edit in Emacs or similar in a phone. I am > afraid of virtual keyboards and small physical keyboards as well :) > For someone over forties I tend to do not consider these typing > devices as toys or at least funny :) > > For this reason I think that a nice interface such as MobileOrg with > agenda view would be the best. > > ConnectBot seems to be an option as well (when you have connection, of > course!) > > Sven, you seem quite happy with a virtual keyboard. Am I right? > > Daniel > > 2010/4/19 Richard Riley : > > Eric S Fraga writes: > > > >> On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 11:07:32 -0300, Daniel Martins > wrote: > >>> > >>> --- resending with a proper title --- > >>> > >>> Matthew, > >>> > >>> Just a suggestion for newbies. > >>> > >>> Could you generate a video of MobileOrg Android similar to those of > >>> the MobileOrg Iphone. > >>> > >>> I am still open to suggestions of Android smartphones. > >>> > >>> If I need to access a remote ssh account and open Emacs, the available > >>> keyborards are OK? > >>> > >>> Daniel > >> > >> I have the same questions! My current mobile phone contract expires > >> in 3 months and I'm looking at upgrading to an Android phone. The > >> current best deal I have found is for the Samsung Galaxy Portal, aka > >> the i5700. [1] I'm looking at upgrading to replace my Nokia internet > >> tablet (n810) and non-smart phone with one unit. The nokia does a > >> really nice job of running emacs and org-mode, mind you. > >> > >> I'm particularly interested in knowing how the different handsets > >> approach the keying in of keys like C-x, M-x, TAB, et al. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> eric > > > > > > +1 on this. I had almost decided on the Motorola Milestone (Droid) but > > would love to hear others experiences. Using org-mode in a term emacs is > > not ideal because a lot of shift/arrow/fn chords dont work in the > terminals > > I tried (xterm, urxvt etc) and so doubt they will on a mobile device > > either : so my hard core usage of only emacs -nw inside urxvt and tmux > > soon dwindled and I'm back to using emacs in X. The only problem I now > > have is not being to find a way to use ONE x frame with emacsclient > > being able to create it if its not already done (I bet I've missed > > something obvious but emacsclient -c always creates a new frame and > > emacsclient wont create it if its not already there on my emacs). > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > --001636310205f4efd704849816fc Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I used swype for about 2 days on my droid before getting rid of it... it= 9;s a good concept that needs be iterated on.

Trying to = use emacs from any of the Android shells is borderline impossible... unless= you have a full keyboard to hook up to your Android phone then I would say= you should rule out using it in that fashion.

One of the features I'm working on for the MobileOr= g beta (along with being able to capture notes and change todo states) is a= home screen widget that will show your Agenda or Todo list, this way you d= on't have to open the application to view or adjust these items.

73,
Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB)
http://matburt.net


On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Daniel = Martins <daniel= emc@gmail.com> wrote:
The device I was tantalized to buy was the

Motorola Quench

maybe mainly for Swipe feature

= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DzWpqsDnXIOY =A0(at about 1:00)

or maybe for the price (in Brazil is about 500 USD while the Milestone
is about 780 USD. I know both are outrageous prices in American or
European terms!). BTW the Quench in Brazil DOES NOT seem to come with
the swype feature...

In fact, I doubt I could edit in Emacs or similar in a phone. I am
afraid of virtual keyboards and small physical keyboards as well :)
For someone over forties I tend to do not consider these typing
devices as toys or at least funny :)

For this reason I think that a nice interface such as MobileOrg with
agenda view would be the best.

ConnectBot seems to be an option as well (when you have connection, of cour= se!)

Sven, you seem quite happy with a virtual keyboard. Am I right?

Daniel

2010/4/19 Richard Riley <rileyrg= dev@gmail.com>:
> Eric S Fraga <ucecesf@ucl.ac.uk> writes:
>
>> On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 11:07:32 -0300, Daniel Martins <danielemc@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> =A0--- resending with a proper title ---
>>>
>>> Matthew,
>>>
>>> Just a suggestion for newbies.
>>>
>>> Could you generate a video of MobileOrg Android similar to tho= se of
>>> the MobileOrg Iphone.
>>>
>>> I am still open to suggestions of Android smartphones.
>>>
>>> If I need to access a remote ssh account and open Emacs, the a= vailable
>>> keyborards are OK?
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>
>> I have the same questions! =A0My current mobile phone contract exp= ires
>> in 3 months and I'm looking at upgrading to an Android phone. = =A0The
>> current best deal I have found is for the Samsung Galaxy Portal, a= ka
>> the i5700. =A0[1] I'm looking at upgrading to replace my Nokia= internet
>> tablet (n810) and non-smart phone with one unit. =A0The nokia does= a
>> really nice job of running emacs and org-mode, mind you.
>>
>> I'm particularly interested in knowing how the different hands= ets
>> approach the keying in of keys like C-x, M-x, TAB, et al.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> eric
>
>
> +1 on this. I had almost decided on the Motorola Milestone (Droid) but=
> would love to hear others experiences. Using org-mode in a term emacs = is
> not ideal because a lot of shift/arrow/fn chords dont work in the term= inals
> I tried (xterm, urxvt etc) and so doubt they will on a mobile device > either : so my hard core usage of only emacs -nw inside urxvt and tmux=
> soon dwindled and I'm back to using emacs in X. The only problem I= now
> have is not being to find a way to use ONE x frame with emacsclient > being able to create it if its not already done (I bet I've missed=
> something obvious but emacsclient -c always creates a new frame and > emacsclient wont create it if its not already there on my emacs).
>
>
>
>
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