Hi, i noticed that when using the org-mode clock persistence, the stored clock data gets deleted when i start emacs and exit again without turning on org-mode in between. When looking at org-clock-persistence-insinuate it looks like org-clock load will only run after org-mode gets started whereas org-clock-save will always be called when exiting emacs: (defun org-clock-persistence-insinuate () "Set up hooks for clock persistence" (add-hook 'org-mode-hook 'org-clock-load) (add-hook 'kill-emacs-hook 'org-clock-save)) Not running org-mode-hook (i.e. not starting org-mode) thus does not load clock data but org-clock-save overwrites any prviously saved data when exiting emacs. An easy fix for that would be to just add org-clock-load to e.g. emacs-startup-hook. But this will only work if the code in org-clock-load does not depend on any org-mode initialization code (or would require loading org-mode). So org-clock-save should probably check if org-clock-load has been running during the current emacs session (or if clock persistence was just enabled) and only then save clock data when exiting emacs. I tried to add this to the code in org-clock-save: diff --git a/lisp/org-clock.el b/lisp/org-clock.el index c7ebbf8..c0fe4e6 100644 --- a/lisp/org-clock.el +++ b/lisp/org-clock.el @@ -1803,7 +1803,8 @@ This function is made for clock tables." "Persist various clock-related data to disk. The details of what will be saved are regulated by the variable `org-clock-persist'." - (when org-clock-persist + (when (and org-clock-persist + (or org-clock-loaded (not (file-exists-p org-clock-persist-file)))) (let (b) (with-current-buffer (find-file (expand-file-name org-clock-persist-file)) (progn /Kai