* Question re CATEGORY and Agenda Views
@ 2009-09-09 19:46 Markus Heller
2009-09-09 23:34 ` Matt Lundin
2009-09-10 10:49 ` Sebastian Rose
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From: Markus Heller @ 2009-09-09 19:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Hello,
I apologize if this is RTFM, i couldn't find the answer. Maybe it's
also because of a misconception on my part.
I have a .org file with the following setup (HEAVILY inspired by Bernt
Hansen, http://doc.norang.ca/org-mode.html):
* ABC1
:PROPERTIES:
:CATEGORY: Bugfixes
:PROJECT: ABC1
:END:
** STARTED Find bugs
** STARTED Fix bugs
* ABC2
:PROPERTIES:
:CATEGORY: Bugfixes
:PROJECT: ABC2
:END:
** STARTED Find bugs
** STARTED Fix bugs
So I have 2 different projects with identical tasks. If I bring up the
agenda and list all STARTED tasks, I get a list that looks like:
Bugfixes: STARTED Find bugs :NEXT:
Bugfixes: STARTED Fix bugs :NEXT:
Bugfixes: STARTED Find bugs :NEXT:
Bugfixes: STARTED Fix bugs :NEXT:
So the first column is taken from the CATEGORY property. How can I
change this so that the actual project is displayed in the agenda view?
I would expect that I'd have to use the PROJECT property, but how do I
do this? Or is my whole idea flawed?
Thanks and Cheers
Markus
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* Re: Question re CATEGORY and Agenda Views
2009-09-09 19:46 Question re CATEGORY and Agenda Views Markus Heller
@ 2009-09-09 23:34 ` Matt Lundin
2009-09-10 10:49 ` Sebastian Rose
1 sibling, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Matt Lundin @ 2009-09-09 23:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Markus Heller; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Markus Heller <hellerm2@gmail.com> writes:
> I apologize if this is RTFM, i couldn't find the answer. Maybe it's
> also because of a misconception on my part.
>
> I have a .org file with the following setup (HEAVILY inspired by Bernt
> Hansen, http://doc.norang.ca/org-mode.html):
>
> * ABC1
> :PROPERTIES:
> :CATEGORY: Bugfixes
> :PROJECT: ABC1
> :END:
> ** STARTED Find bugs
> ** STARTED Fix bugs
>
> * ABC2
> :PROPERTIES:
> :CATEGORY: Bugfixes
> :PROJECT: ABC2
> :END:
> ** STARTED Find bugs
> ** STARTED Fix bugs
>
> So I have 2 different projects with identical tasks. If I bring up
> the agenda and list all STARTED tasks, I get a list that looks like:
>
> Bugfixes: STARTED Find bugs :NEXT:
> Bugfixes: STARTED Fix bugs :NEXT:
> Bugfixes: STARTED Find bugs :NEXT:
> Bugfixes: STARTED Fix bugs :NEXT:
>
> So the first column is taken from the CATEGORY property. How can I
> change this so that the actual project is displayed in the agenda
> view? I would expect that I'd have to use the PROJECT property, but
> how do I do this? Or is my whole idea flawed?
By default, the first item in an agenda line is the CATEGORY. You can
change the appearance of agenda lines by setting
org-agenda-prefix-format, though you will not be able to display an
arbitrary property such as PROJECT. (AFAIK, you are limited to category,
tag, time of day, and scheduling information.)
There is no default functionality for a PROJECT property in org-mode.
Here are a few options I can think of:
1. Use the CATEGORY to designate the project (perhaps make BUGFIXES a
tag).
2. Set up a column view for the agenda that allows you to view the
project property.
3. Use a tag to designate the project. This would allow you to filter
the agenda by project.
4. Use follow mode in the agenda to see the context (i.e., the project
heading).
Hope this helps.
Matt
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* Re: Question re CATEGORY and Agenda Views
2009-09-09 19:46 Question re CATEGORY and Agenda Views Markus Heller
2009-09-09 23:34 ` Matt Lundin
@ 2009-09-10 10:49 ` Sebastian Rose
2009-09-10 20:56 ` Markus Heller
1 sibling, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Sebastian Rose @ 2009-09-10 10:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Markus Heller; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Markus Heller <hellerm2@gmail.com> writes:
> Hello,
>
> I apologize if this is RTFM, i couldn't find the answer. Maybe it's also
> because of a misconception on my part.
>
> I have a .org file with the following setup (HEAVILY inspired by Bernt Hansen,
> http://doc.norang.ca/org-mode.html):
>
> * ABC1
> :PROPERTIES:
> :CATEGORY: Bugfixes
> :PROJECT: ABC1
> :END:
> ** STARTED Find bugs
> ** STARTED Fix bugs
>
> * ABC2
> :PROPERTIES:
> :CATEGORY: Bugfixes
> :PROJECT: ABC2
> :END:
> ** STARTED Find bugs
> ** STARTED Fix bugs
>
> So I have 2 different projects with identical tasks. If I bring up the agenda
> and list all STARTED tasks, I get a list that looks like:
>
> Bugfixes: STARTED Find bugs :NEXT:
> Bugfixes: STARTED Fix bugs :NEXT:
> Bugfixes: STARTED Find bugs :NEXT:
> Bugfixes: STARTED Fix bugs :NEXT:
>
> So the first column is taken from the CATEGORY property. How can I change this
> so that the actual project is displayed in the agenda view? I would expect that
> I'd have to use the PROJECT property, but how do I do this? Or is my whole idea
> flawed?
* Files
To be honest, I never used the CATEGORY property at all, simply
because that's a kind of information I need to see anyway and to put
that information into a drawer is counterproductive. I'm still waiting
for the day/mail when I apprehend the use of CATEGORY ;)
Instead, I use one file per customer (or even project) and the file
name is seen in the agenda. So I would have an `ABC1.org' and an
`ABC2.org' [fn:1]. If I don't use one of those files anymore
(everything is DONE and the customer is not likely to call anymore), I
remove the file from the list of my agenda files.
* Headlines
"Fix Bugs" is my job, so why should I have a to-do entry with that
title in one of my files? It wouldn't say anything about the task
without context. That said, I would have to expand the entry when
visiting the Org-file, just to find out what that entry is all about.
In short, I use headlines that actually say something about the task.
That way, never ran into an issue with two identical headlines. While
the headline of two entries could be identical, the to-do state of
those entries will be different. One of them will be DONE and thus not
show up in the agenda.
As an example, a bug could show up again for some reason, but I have
to add a new entry, because the old one is billed already and
therefore DONE.
For small things that go in my organizer.org, I use tags which show up
in the agenda, too.
Best wishes
Sebastian
Footnotes:
[fn:1] Note, that those files do not need to live in your `org-directory', but
could live in your projects workspace if you prefer.
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* Re: Question re CATEGORY and Agenda Views
2009-09-10 10:49 ` Sebastian Rose
@ 2009-09-10 20:56 ` Markus Heller
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From: Markus Heller @ 2009-09-10 20:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Sebastian Rose wrote:
> Markus Heller <hellerm2@gmail.com> writes:
[long reply snipped]
>
Thanks Sebastian,
your reply gave me some stuff to think about. Exactly what I was
looking for. I'll see how I'm going to go about this ...
Also thanks to Matt for his reply!
Cheers
Markus
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