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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1665328930; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=H10X4aqzYSybxpY5+z/JDkW/+z9LoCAvP+Tu+uno2V0=; b=eBaxK0ErJzeZVZgazjngPoNW/jKgpqbpNHIV2hFBgr2hb1UmTvfgA8YTVQsVvOLLt0Omng CoBz5oTUvCX2SA63UVPK06vDP3cOd1dWnyH5P8G0MEQdQl8ekBpGhQBq5zZc8L3eScPTwY gJ646wPvoXqoZBypDATiYG9yZFVEOYPBoX0umSOyn5syglD7SE9Fedfdh35JRQWtY/ZZcr KfZ5CYv8WHSlZ4OfZdjqr7k/yhrwHHZcUUCiAdyt2BQLxquSby4eGrcPxI3wuFsn9sOmJp 8VORNOCz6voHiIe/Ex/z+Wzv5psCWbKOnL9W3x4sBUxSwOXJM0RqeYJCsDsgIQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1665328930; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=scFBnT2+16K66jlIeIjlTdh5SxQY5+sAXuR41u9S5iKq0EjHHwYF+zXZ16AzBs5uvxDVF/ DOS5Ys4bEdv3FkkcnY/f12YorBxoIBr4C7zKxKCQY6Txvkg5w0yItrU/0Cb+OxDFbEg1Gm 3A/gMfT2bHq9+fRww99W59bEylqhUKL6YD7y4rWSZhj8IEPaEd9WJNRR/7y0bWB9w3dL5g oOHH98wTRF+03YQ/VeDAUTCo5/BqxVlX/9rSnT3YBuLBwDyg2YJUtHnIlfxEj4etl4EqZY b4s45/W6Z+FehsjE3XC4QPNo7GaLh/BpRKziswTysirfMVePtBsZaEY3fAFIxw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=C4fEnM+5; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=riseup.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.48 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=riseup.net header.s=squak header.b=C4fEnM+5; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=riseup.net; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 6594C339A7 X-Spam-Score: -2.48 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: V1v9fIp9FrAZ El 2022-10-09 05:40, Jean Louis escribió: > But I can as well edit my contacts by using external tools and > exchange information with other software. > > Do you wish to share your contacts? That is easy, one can simple send > the full file to somebody. > > By followed the thought patterns described one shall understand that > contacts may be separated from single mode (Org) and separated from > single software (Emacs) and that it will not minimize or limit you but > rather widen the capacities and usefulness for human. This is a great summary about the use of database to hold information. But it requires experience configuring databases for end-users. It could work if the database was set up by someone else or if the fields were easy to define by the end-user by some kind of interface. On the other hand, there is a movement to use plain text for everything. I know you disagree. But here is some information about accounting this way: https://plaintextaccounting.org I learned a lot of elisp by reading your long explanation about how to construct a contact database directly on Emacs 29 without adding anything else. Thank you very much!