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[5.44.169.188]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id o2-20020a056512050200b004aa95889063sm1847983lfb.43.2022.12.26.07.03.48 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 26 Dec 2022 07:03:49 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2022 22:03:47 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.4.2 Subject: Re: missing from the manual - move commands Content-Language: en-US To: Peter Mao , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org References: From: Max Nikulin In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::12f; envelope-from=manikulin@gmail.com; helo=mail-lf1-x12f.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -31 X-Spam_score: -3.2 X-Spam_bar: --- X-Spam_report: (-3.2 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-1.147, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1672067090; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=p8y+KMLdUOWvZhWhj5LEmhm4ZHQuKy7kIXM7ZWkU/qc9HAQeMorFrSXJ0/1vzw//oINQNQ 6GTVxNWb9gGiV2R9aDRcuXV0tg3ZDLS8sRWSy2JzinN5PasEG1AvsKIdnkJkAnPQNRmZeS 1cS3UBxgxN0dckQkq4eLVgILwDuo5zc4DmUOLDhFX93liMFp2xYedKGurk2VCz1HIUINf9 h7GOZQ2Joeey7E0MLNjqW8Ht4WBBrU5fjptrNkVgUsn9hxNPZicfEnTMDdSpv/qIjjf8+Z cQnD53Q+5d4eTS2OUmVGsenxgPu4/slGSJocNop5gB2uJkHOwcae2tzRneXUXw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b="FNEr/vI9"; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none) ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1672067090; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=NU0IAJ1PBzRkjg8N8rCzCKqbC2w3B3ToD2hR16D4Ao4=; b=gTv8MRKr0A3K1nKnkFJf6Fyrsirxr19PWaCmRWEiZLgfjEHK7sLmNhOmVtQ/hMgZElXYka zvWdvu5bvgjWGIMjCNp4GiKUeaoVMzbv0yeBG5z7Dzs2v909t0fT2qYwjYXWdBUSM5K/+1 2CiTV5JSv563y7O+zPZ6tYAIAB+ze2KTRIEqX+na5Bo3WgyXUmSqFDuWe0pyHPeTDI2nNH PHCHgvRX+Srf4q2o1WgYS0JZ1rqplTENTBvT2tLguwmkIQZG0IB+k3T3NWf649apSqXvUx 5GDxYd9HOJqTHBGLt9crXwh/FainJBjiv2pX/rXn5CDkHJnlKm9YmC9+yhPhUA== X-Spam-Score: -2.23 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: D030F29270 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b="FNEr/vI9"; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org"; dmarc=fail reason="SPF not aligned (relaxed)" header.from=gmail.com (policy=none) X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.23 X-TUID: lSLC00LsE+Jf On 24/12/2022 09:43, Peter Mao wrote: > The following commands are missing from the manual! > > org-forward-element > org-backward-element I think, the manual was written with assumption that Emacs users are familiar with C-up, M-{, C-down, M-} keystrokes. > These two should be mentioned in the manual in section 2.3 "Motion" A as person for whom Emacs is almost solely a note taking application (thanks to Org), I do not mind. Perhaps the relevant section from Emacs should be mentioned as well. Someone should take the challenge to extend the info "(org) Motion" section in a way informative for novices and not boring for experienced Emacs users and to emphasize difference of (maybe familiar) shortcuts from the fundamental mode.