From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Scot Becker Subject: Re: Re: AI for orgmode Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 11:01:31 +0000 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2036639509==" Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NswRL-0001G8-Ge for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Mar 2010 07:01:59 -0400 Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=52200 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NswRI-0001Ey-5K for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Mar 2010 07:01:59 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NswRF-00074y-8E for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Mar 2010 07:01:54 -0400 Received: from mail-pw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.160.41]:35736) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NswRE-00074p-Uu for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sat, 20 Mar 2010 07:01:53 -0400 Received: by pwi4 with SMTP id 4so3566212pwi.0 for ; Sat, 20 Mar 2010 04:01:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Leo Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org --===============2036639509== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd1b5a41b0d000482396421 --000e0cd1b5a41b0d000482396421 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I quite like Thomas' idea of packets for specific org mode uses. As a starting list consdier: writing for the web, writing for print, basic task management, "full" GTD, time tracking, code/LaTeX tangling. The list could obviously be edited down or up in length. Each of these packets might include Thomas' list (relevant .emacs code, sample org document, tutorial document and a screencast.) It's true that org is in some ways very simple (remember the 'taskpaper' discussion of a year ago?), for basic outlining. But it's also true that the minimal code-and-knowhow needed to do some of the specific tasks which org has proven so good at it can be a fair hurdle for a beginner to put together. In this respect the raw flexibility of org-mode (exactly like Emacs itself) has its down side. We might be able to lower the getting-started hurdle if we were able to tell people; "You want to do GTD-like task management? Look and follw the recipe. You want to outline your writing? Look . Heaven knows you can always tweak it later." I have often thought that there would be ways to get people up and running even without the venerable Emacs tutorial. Scot --000e0cd1b5a41b0d000482396421 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I quite like Thomas' idea of packets for specific org mode uses.=A0 As = a starting list consdier: writing for the web, writing for print, basic tas= k management, "full" GTD, time tracking, code/LaTeX tangling. The= list could obviously be edited down or up in length.=A0 Each of these pack= ets might include Thomas' list (relevant .emacs code, sample org docume= nt, tutorial document and a screencast.)=A0

It's true that org is in some ways very simple (remember the 't= askpaper' discussion of a year ago?), for basic outlining. But it's= also true that the minimal code-and-knowhow needed to do some of the speci= fic tasks which org has proven so good at it can be a fair hurdle for a beg= inner to put together.=A0 In this respect the raw flexibility of org-mode (= exactly like Emacs itself) has its down side.=A0 We might be able to lower = the getting-started hurdle if we were able to tell people; "You want t= o do GTD-like task management?=A0 Look <here> and follw the recipe.= =A0 You want to outline your writing?=A0 Look <here>.=A0 Heaven knows= you can always tweak it later."=A0 I have often thought that there wo= uld be ways to get people up and running even without the venerable Emacs t= utorial.

Scot

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