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From: Scot Becker <scot.becker@gmail.com>
To: Matthew Lundin <mdl@imapmail.org>
Cc: emacs org-mode mailing list <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Re: footnote renumber bug
Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 09:36:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e0e1fe620907030136j2ab74bb7nfd6c1ef5649004d@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <874otuwy3l.fsf@fastmail.fm>

Matthew,

No apologies needed.  A good explanation like yours is a valuable
thing to have sitting in the mailing list archive (and perhaps even in
a more formal spot, in the Worg article: "Academic writing with Org,"
which I will someday help you write.)

Scot


On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:53 PM, Matthew Lundin<mdl@imapmail.org> wrote:
> Hi Andreas,
>
> Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler@easy-emacs.de> writes:
>
>> Matthew Lundin wrote:
>>> Footnote.el, by contrast, was designed for short email messages in which
>>> there is no distinction between source text and exported text. Though it
>>> serves this limited purpose admirably, it offers only a very rudimentary
>>> numbering system rather than a complete markup solution. For any complex
>>> writing (e.g., a research paper with dozens of footnotes), footnote.el
>>> is well-nigh impossible to use. There are simply too many chances of
>>> broken or mixed up links.
>>>
>>
>> Ignoring the guts of org-modes footnote implementation, just my impression
>> of footnote.el:
>>
>> it's fine by architecture and --if patched-- well capable for all things
>> you want to do with footnotes.
>> Can't see any limitation concerning larger texts.
>> It simply wasn't --or isn't-- written to the end.
>
> Thanks for the clarification. Reading over my email, I believe I may
> stated some conclusions about footnote.el too strongly. What I should
> have said is that *in my own experience* I have found footnote.el
> difficult to use (in its pre-patched form, of course).
>
> Try as I might, I could never get Footnote-renumber-footnotes to do
> anything. And if I moved any footnotes in the original text, deleted
> them manually, or reopened a document with footnotes,
> Footnote-add-footnote behaved unpredictably, creating duplicate numbers,
> skipping numbers, putting footnotes in the wrong order, placing
> footnotes randomly above and below the "Footnotes:" line, etc.
>
> Very likely, my issues with footnote.el were due to my own lack of
> understanding of its mechanics, and I can see how your patch fixes
> things up quite a bit. It will be a really nice contribution to emacs if
> footnote.el is fixed, since modes such as Muse rely on it.
>
> Also, my apologies for a somewhat wordy defense of org-footnote. I wrote
> it only because I am a very big fan. :)
>
> Regards,
> Matt
>
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2009-07-03  8:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-02  6:55 Andreas Roehler
2009-07-02 11:44 ` Karl Maihofer
2009-07-02 13:18   ` Andreas Röhler
2009-07-02 15:48     ` Matthew Lundin
2009-07-02 16:05       ` Matthew Lundin
2009-07-02 20:09       ` Andreas Röhler
2009-07-02 21:53         ` Matthew Lundin
2009-07-03  8:36           ` Scot Becker [this message]
2009-07-03 12:08             ` Andreas Röhler
2009-07-03 14:17               ` Paul R
2009-07-03 14:51                 ` Andreas Röhler
2009-07-03 14:42               ` Matthew Lundin
2009-07-03 21:49 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-07-04  8:02   ` Andreas Roehler
2009-07-04 20:30     ` Matthew Lundin
2009-07-05 20:31       ` Carsten Dominik

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