* org-mode to iphone? [not found] <E1LEoDW-0007Pp-CL@box188.bluehost.com> @ 2008-12-22 21:58 ` Robert Goldman 2008-12-22 22:10 ` Christopher DeMarco 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Robert Goldman @ 2008-12-22 21:58 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Question --- would it be possible to attach a unique identifier to org-mode tasks and appointments (perhaps as a property value), and use that as a basis for syncing with external applications? BTW, if you're thinking of syncing with the Mac, think hard about timezones. I have been in a world of hurt trying to sync my Palm and iCal because of their disagreements about time zones.... cheers, r ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: org-mode to iphone? 2008-12-22 21:58 ` org-mode to iphone? Robert Goldman @ 2008-12-22 22:10 ` Christopher DeMarco 2009-01-22 8:06 ` Carsten Dominik 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Christopher DeMarco @ 2008-12-22 22:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode As a more-useful alternative to my ha-ha-only-serious "email" response, look at the export-to-HTML functions. I haven't gotten here yet with org-mode, but I understand they're pretty powerful -- and HTML is perfect for the iPhone. A robust HTML interface to your org-mode would be much more useful than a native iPhone app, IMHO, and without the landmines of interfacing with iCal et.al. My previous organization system (Python-based) had a simple CGI interface to parse my sources into HTML with CSS for the iPhone; it worked surprisingly well, including hyperlinks that sent me email noting that I'd "checked off" an item -- I didn't trust myself to actually change state from the iPhone, but sent a "check off the item manually" reminder. Once I've got my Emacs-native org-mode where I want it, I plan on tackling the iPhone display and sharing my code with the list. It should be pretty easy to write a mod_python handler to pull org-mode source from Git or Subversion and run that through the elisp interpreter... But seriously, you could totally expose your agenda view as an IMAP store... -- Christopher DeMarco <demarco@maya.com> IT Director MAYA Group +1-412-708-9660 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: org-mode to iphone? 2008-12-22 22:10 ` Christopher DeMarco @ 2009-01-22 8:06 ` Carsten Dominik 2009-01-22 16:05 ` Wes Hardaker 2009-01-22 16:57 ` David Thole 0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Carsten Dominik @ 2009-01-22 8:06 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Christopher DeMarco; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Hi Christopher, I am extremely interested in what you write here about using HTML to look at the agenda, sending automatic emails for completed tasks, and even the IMAP store idea. So please get back to it when you find time and keep us posted. I could tweak the HTML exporter where necessary to make a good mobile access idea for Org-mode stuff a reality. - Carsten On Dec 22, 2008, at 11:10 PM, Christopher DeMarco wrote: > As a more-useful alternative to my ha-ha-only-serious "email" > response, look at the export-to-HTML functions. I haven't gotten here > yet with org-mode, but I understand they're pretty powerful -- and > HTML is perfect for the iPhone. A robust HTML interface to your > org-mode would be much more useful than a native iPhone app, IMHO, and > without the landmines of interfacing with iCal et.al. > > My previous organization system (Python-based) had a simple CGI > interface to parse my sources into HTML with CSS for the iPhone; it > worked surprisingly well, including hyperlinks that sent me email > noting that I'd "checked off" an item -- I didn't trust myself to > actually change state from the iPhone, but sent a "check off the item > manually" reminder. > > Once I've got my Emacs-native org-mode where I want it, I plan on > tackling the iPhone display and sharing my code with the list. It > should be pretty easy to write a mod_python handler to pull org-mode > source from Git or Subversion and run that through the elisp > interpreter... > > But seriously, you could totally expose your agenda view as an IMAP > store... > > > -- > Christopher DeMarco <demarco@maya.com> > IT Director > MAYA Group > +1-412-708-9660 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: org-mode to iphone? 2009-01-22 8:06 ` Carsten Dominik @ 2009-01-22 16:05 ` Wes Hardaker 2009-01-22 16:57 ` David Thole 1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Wes Hardaker @ 2009-01-22 16:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: emacs-orgmode >>>>> On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:06:38 +0100, Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> said: CD> So please get back to it when you find time and keep us CD> posted. I could tweak the HTML exporter where necessary CD> to make a good mobile access idea for Org-mode stuff CD> a reality. I've been meaning to write this up for a while, and I think this sort of idea is exactly what could benefit from it... I think there should be a generic exporter that contains simple customization rules for how to do an export. Something like: (setq org-export-templates '(("mediawiki" :heading1-prefix "= " :heading1-suffix " =" :heading2-prefix "== " :heading2-suffix " ==" :bold-prefix "'''" :bold-suffix "'''" :link-format "[%{url} %{link-text}]" :numbered-list-prefix "#" :numbered-list-suffix "\n" ))) I'm making stuff up on the fly above, but I think you get the idea. Most of the exporting formats that are needed could really be simplified down to something minimal like the above. It'd be much easier than continually rewriting much of the export process when a lot of it is the same across multiple back-ends. I'm not sure it could be applied everywhere. Certainly there are some very tricky elements to deal with (and the default, if not defined, should be to fall back to a straight text conversion). IE, I'm not sure the latex backend could be easily rewritten using something like the above (but hey, you never know). There are a number of things I'd like to export to something "unusual", and the above would allow that flexibility. Unfortunately, I don't have much time, and more importantly don't have the org skill at all to make it happen. Thoughts? -- "In the bathtub of history the truth is harder to hold than the soap, and much more difficult to find." -- Terry Pratchett ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: org-mode to iphone? 2009-01-22 8:06 ` Carsten Dominik 2009-01-22 16:05 ` Wes Hardaker @ 2009-01-22 16:57 ` David Thole 2009-01-22 23:09 ` Scot Becker 1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: David Thole @ 2009-01-22 16:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: emacs-orgmode [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2831 bytes --] I've been tempted to create a frontend web site devoted toward very simple operations in regard to using org-mode - something say in Django or something, and using sync scripts to the org files.The idea I was thinking is just a simple CRUD operation with that file (either that or use a sql database such as sqllite and use a cron job that "syncs" these together). I wouldn't mind still completing that if people are interested in such a tool. Since I have just an ipod touch, I've been reluctant to build it since I don't have access 100% of the time to the app. -David On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 2:06 AM, Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl>wrote: > Hi Christopher, > > I am extremely interested in what you write here about using HTML > to look at the agenda, sending automatic emails for completed > tasks, and even the IMAP store idea. > > So please get back to it when you find time and keep us > posted. I could tweak the HTML exporter where necessary > to make a good mobile access idea for Org-mode stuff > a reality. > > - Carsten > > On Dec 22, 2008, at 11:10 PM, Christopher DeMarco wrote: > > As a more-useful alternative to my ha-ha-only-serious "email" >> response, look at the export-to-HTML functions. I haven't gotten here >> yet with org-mode, but I understand they're pretty powerful -- and >> HTML is perfect for the iPhone. A robust HTML interface to your >> org-mode would be much more useful than a native iPhone app, IMHO, and >> without the landmines of interfacing with iCal et.al. >> >> My previous organization system (Python-based) had a simple CGI >> interface to parse my sources into HTML with CSS for the iPhone; it >> worked surprisingly well, including hyperlinks that sent me email >> noting that I'd "checked off" an item -- I didn't trust myself to >> actually change state from the iPhone, but sent a "check off the item >> manually" reminder. >> >> Once I've got my Emacs-native org-mode where I want it, I plan on >> tackling the iPhone display and sharing my code with the list. It >> should be pretty easy to write a mod_python handler to pull org-mode >> source from Git or Subversion and run that through the elisp >> interpreter... >> >> But seriously, you could totally expose your agenda view as an IMAP >> store... >> >> >> -- >> Christopher DeMarco <demarco@maya.com> >> IT Director >> MAYA Group >> +1-412-708-9660 >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 3902 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 204 bytes --] _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: org-mode to iphone? 2009-01-22 16:57 ` David Thole @ 2009-01-22 23:09 ` Scot Becker 0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Scot Becker @ 2009-01-22 23:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: David Thole; +Cc: emacs-orgmode The idea of a generic exporter sounds very cool. Especially if it could still make use of the very refined set of options org mode has to include and prune subtrees, to include or exclude keywords, timestamps, and tags. I wonder if it could be made also to work with something like the Pandoc extensions to Markdown [http://johnmacfarlane.net/pandoc/], which would then allow further export into the range of formats Pandoc supports (markdown, reStructuredText, HTML, ConTeXt, RTF, DocBook XML, OpenDocument XML, ODT, GNU Texinfo, MediaWiki markup, groff man pages, and S5 HTML slide shows). Of course, such flexibility probably doesn't come without it's struggles, but the ability to throw an org document in and get and ODF would have significant benefit. I'll have to think about how far a generic substitution-based exporter could get at such a conversion.... Scot On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 4:57 PM, David Thole <dthole@gmail.com> wrote: > I've been tempted to create a frontend web site devoted toward very simple > operations in regard to using org-mode - something say in Django or > something, and using sync scripts to the org files.The idea I was thinking > is just a simple CRUD operation with that file (either that or use a sql > database such as sqllite and use a cron job that "syncs" these together). I > wouldn't mind still completing that if people are interested in such a > tool. Since I have just an ipod touch, I've been reluctant to build it > since I don't have access 100% of the time to the app. > > -David > > On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 2:06 AM, Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> > wrote: >> >> Hi Christopher, >> >> I am extremely interested in what you write here about using HTML >> to look at the agenda, sending automatic emails for completed >> tasks, and even the IMAP store idea. >> >> So please get back to it when you find time and keep us >> posted. I could tweak the HTML exporter where necessary >> to make a good mobile access idea for Org-mode stuff >> a reality. >> >> - Carsten >> >> On Dec 22, 2008, at 11:10 PM, Christopher DeMarco wrote: >> >>> As a more-useful alternative to my ha-ha-only-serious "email" >>> response, look at the export-to-HTML functions. I haven't gotten here >>> yet with org-mode, but I understand they're pretty powerful -- and >>> HTML is perfect for the iPhone. A robust HTML interface to your >>> org-mode would be much more useful than a native iPhone app, IMHO, and >>> without the landmines of interfacing with iCal et.al. >>> >>> My previous organization system (Python-based) had a simple CGI >>> interface to parse my sources into HTML with CSS for the iPhone; it >>> worked surprisingly well, including hyperlinks that sent me email >>> noting that I'd "checked off" an item -- I didn't trust myself to >>> actually change state from the iPhone, but sent a "check off the item >>> manually" reminder. >>> >>> Once I've got my Emacs-native org-mode where I want it, I plan on >>> tackling the iPhone display and sharing my code with the list. It >>> should be pretty easy to write a mod_python handler to pull org-mode >>> source from Git or Subversion and run that through the elisp >>> interpreter... >>> >>> But seriously, you could totally expose your agenda view as an IMAP >>> store... >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Christopher DeMarco <demarco@maya.com> >>> IT Director >>> MAYA Group >>> +1-412-708-9660 >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >>> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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