From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Ken Harris Subject: Re: C-a and C-e in org-mode Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 17:46:12 -0800 Message-ID: References: <4A2C5A06-A3A6-417A-AF61-790C86387E54@uva.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LUAMi-0001dU-P8 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2009 20:46:16 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LUAMh-0001bo-0a for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2009 20:46:16 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=56357 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LUAMg-0001bT-NU for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2009 20:46:14 -0500 Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com ([209.85.134.187]:65492) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LUAMg-0006VQ-9b for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 02 Feb 2009 20:46:14 -0500 Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id i2so1392453mue.6 for ; Mon, 02 Feb 2009 17:46:12 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4A2C5A06-A3A6-417A-AF61-790C86387E54@uva.nl> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Carsten Dominik Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Hi Carsten, > Hmmm, why would you ever want to call thee commands with > a prefix argument? That did not occur to me, which is why these > commands do not care about it. Do you mean "what does it do"? It goes down by that many lines first. Do you mean "what's the practical value"? I'm right-handed, so I frequently move my right hand over to the mouse to test my program, but my left hand always stays on the keyboard (what else would it do?). On my keyboard layout, I can hit all of C-u, C-a, C-e, C-p, C-k, and C-y with my left hand, so I can a whole lot of simple navigation editing without putting down the mouse (or mousing back over to my emacs window). If C-a and C-e can't use numeric prefixes, I need twice as many hands to move the cursor down. :-) More generally, I have many years of experience with the emacs keybindings. A mode should have a really good reason to change the built-ins. (Steve Yegge's js2-mode also screws up some of these, but has what are essentially unbreak-my-keybindings variables to let you work around them.) It looks like this is not a case of it being intentional, but merely that nobody has gotten around to it yet. That's fine, but I'm simply reporting that some of us would like this fixed. :-) - Ken