From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Stinky Wizzleteet Subject: Re: particular capture method for a diet .. ? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Christopher Allan Webber writes: Wow, really, that's awesome and inspring. Congratulations ! I think the hacker's diet is the most useful thing to come out of autodesk. The first time I lost some serious weight was when I followed the hacker's diet in 2001, I used his palm III app for that. I've gained weight since the birth of my son and the start of my company and I want to curb it before it gets out of hand. I cap the caloric deficit at a 500 kcal deficit per day, because for me and my genetic background of overweight family this is probably not a diet but a lifestyle and I understood that at higher deficits ones metabolism is trying to adapt, trying to defeat the dieting purpose. (citation needed) -I cannot provide proof nor reference to this statement- Your approach is *exactly* what I was meaning to eventually throw together. I would love to take a look at your code, as a total noob I may be able to hack a workable system for myself -eventually, but help maintaining will be possible only on the long term. Once I've mastered lisp and org. However, as I am not the only one interested in your system you might want to consider dumping it loosely unorganized on github. but mailing us a tar package would be cool too. thx ! wzzl > So I've been meaning to put something up on this in worg for a while. > > I've been dieting using orgmode, basic calorie tracking, and something > resembling the ideas out of "The Hacker's Diet" for the last year > (actually 2.5 years with a 1.5 year "break" in which I continued to > weigh in mostly but didn't follow my calorie goals ;)) and have lost > > 60 pounds so far (originally was 275, not all that's recorded in my > files during the first few weeks of dieting, anyway at 210 now), going > from morbidly obese to just overweight, and I'm still losing weight > (soon enough, being a fat guy will be far behind me). Here's the > org-babel generated gnuplot graphs to show it (regenerated and pushed to > my site every morning): > > http://dustycloud.org/tmp/weight.png > http://dustycloud.org/tmp/weight_month.png > > Here's a screenshot: > http://dustycloud.org/tmp/org-diet2.png > > Roughly in the terrible amount of hacks that compose "org-diet" I've > wrapped together these ideas/tools: > - calorie tracking > - recipe calorie calculation > - weigh-in via org-capture > - calorie "clocking" (clock out at the end of the day to verify you've > got accurate numbers for that day) > - habit tracking of whether you've met your calorie goals > - weight graphing with 10 day moving averaging to remove some of the > "noise" from a daily weigh in/out > - bmi calculation > - a really shitty calories-per-day-to-lose-to-meet-your-goals estimator > > It's really nothing complex, and mostly it's not software, just a > methedology with a *slight* amount of poorly written software in elisp > and org-babel, but the system works great. > > I planned after meeting my diet goals (hitting normal weight) that I'd > release the whole thing (including my present diet file for reference) > under GPLv3, document it in worg, and put my own diet file out there > under CC0, but maybe I should do it sooner... problem is I don't have > time presently while trying to work on http://mediagoblin.org on > weekends to make a "proper" release, but I could at least bundle > together everything you need to have a full system using my hacks for > now if you want, with really terrible but usable documentation, without > taking up too much time. :) > > Interested? I could probably throw together a terrible tarball this > weekend if you want to use it and post it to the list. > > One thing that's clear from the diet I've collected: whenever I've > followed the system, without fail, I've lost weight. When I've deviated > I've stayed level or I've gained weight (the no-movement middle of the > diet graph I linked to). Follow the system, use habit tracking and > stuff, stick to your calorie goals (I shoot for a lower occasional-goal > of 1300 calories and an absolute minimum goal of 1600 calories), and it > *fucking works* without any support of the bullshit diet industry. > > I've heard a few people saying they have interest in the stuff I have so > maybe I should just do that crappy release for now; better than nothing? > > Hopefully being useful while making embarassing admissions about my > body, > - cwebb > > Stinky Wizzleteet writes: > >> Hi all, >> >> I am too fat. >> >> And I found in the past that the best way for me to loose weight is to >> log my eating habit every day and make sure that I eat between 1800 and >> 2200 kcal/day, no more, but also not less. >> >> I want to figure out a way how to create a custom capture template to >> keep track of my daily intake. >> >> The result should be a diary-style org file were every day would be >> filled with a table that features an updated total and an item list: >> >> TOTAL: 1965 kcal >> |apple | 80| >> |orange | 65| >> |energy drink | 300| >> ... etc >> >> (gnus: y u no tables ?) >> >> capturing would consist of two entries, item and specific caloric >> value, and these values would be inserted into a table that would >> automagically update its daily total. >> Every day a new table should be started. >> >> Is this possible ? And how ? >> Pointers, tips and snippets are greatly appreciated. >> >> Best, >> wzzl -- Stinky Wizzleteet thinks: After your lover has gone you will still have PEANUT BUTTER!