From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Eddward DeVilla" Subject: Re: Duration Tally Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 14:35:52 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20070613134706.GA10452@odin.demosthenes.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I1ovG-0004KM-Rt for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:35:58 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I1ovF-0004Jl-J5 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:35:58 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I1ovF-0004JY-7n for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:35:57 -0400 Received: from wa-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.146.178]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1I1ovD-0006P4-Ta for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:35:56 -0400 Received: by wa-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id k34so846385wah for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 12:35:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Content-Disposition: inline List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Scott Jaderholm Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org On 6/22/07, Scott Jaderholm wrote: > I think it's harder to design an interface where different levels have > different columns. > > Sometimes the columns will make sense on different levels so they opt > to leave them there. Also, as we see in the screenshot, they can be > used for summaries of almost anything that can be summed. > > A simple example where columns apply to different levels, other than > summaries, is this: > > * Saturday Projects (In charge) > ** TODO Clean yard Bobby > *** TODO Rake Sue > *** TODO Mow lawn John Seems to me that columns, here, are just a summary of things that are attached (or that you wished were attached) to the heading with alignment thrown in. It sort of seems to me what the agenda buffer is for. Maybe it an agenda query with the ability to 'unfold' the heading in place in the agenda buffer. > One thing I forgot to mention that I like about organizing information > in trees with columns instead of tables is the flexibility in storing > notes. I know on more than one occasion I've wanted to be able to fold a sub-section of a table. Just to be able to put a '-' in front of the portions of the table I'd like to group and be able to fold and still keep it one table. That's not quite what you are asking for here, but I think it could be made related. I'm not sure how to implement a hierarchy in a visually pleasing way. I think the idea of having an org-table with foldable inline notes would be useful too. Say if the line (or lines) following a table row starts with a '!' (or some other character, I was thinking ':' but that already has a meaning) then it is a note attached to that row. You could have a binding to toggle the visibility for a row or for the table. I don't know what key to use since tab already has a good use in tables. Also, there the question of whether the prefix character is desirable since it would get in the way of using lists and headings as notes for the row. We could just say we don't do that, but it could be nice if it were allowed. I don't know how you would be able to tell one table from the next though. Maybe we say that if the first character of a heading is a '|' it is part of a heading-table? Again, I don't know how to make it look nice or behave with todo keywords. Edd