Fwd: Feature in org-move-item-down

From: "Eddward DeVilla" <eddward@gmail.com>
To: emacs-orgmode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Fwd: Feature in org-move-item-down
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 22:22:15 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b71b18520703182022id8e82b5m8d6151f68baf3d80@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b71b18520703182004s36dc1102ibef10f215b135fb0@mail.gmail.com>

Once again, it hit reply instead of reply-all.

Edd

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Eddward DeVilla <eddward@gmail.com>
Date: Mar 18, 2007 10:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Orgmode] Feature in org-move-item-down
To: Mike Newman <mike@newmanfamily.me.uk>

    I sometimes have blank lines in list items.  I have lists do
visibility cycling like headings and use them as light weight
headings.  One thing I've found is that empty lines seem to be after
an item and not a part.  Blank lines, with whitespace characters in
them seem to be a part of the item.  I use it and tend to like it.  I
need to turn on a setting to make such blank but not empty lines a
little easier to spot.  If the behavior would change, I'd probably
need to change how I do thing and maybe use heading more.

Edd

On 3/18/07, Mike Newman <mike@newmanfamily.me.uk> wrote:
> The manual (section 2.8) says
>
> "Indentation also determines the end of a list item.  It ends before the next line that is indented like the bullet/number, or less."
>
> I think that a blank line has 0 indentation, therefore (by this logic)
> it should end a list item.  Clearly a blank line cannot start a list
> item, so it must end a list.
>
> I think the question is whether list items can contain blank lines.
> This may be established practice, but it was not what I was expecting.
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike
>
> On Sun, 18 Mar 2007 08:11:08 +0100
> Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Mar 17, 2007, at 4:15, Mike Newman wrote:
> >
> > > It appears org-move-item-down treats blank lines as part of the
> > > preceding list item (whereas I use them to separate a list from
> > > subsequent text).
> > >
> > > So given
> > >
> > > - a test
> > > - b test
> > > - c test
> > >
> > > test
> > >
> > > with point on line b, M-x org-move-item-down gives
> > > - a test
> > > - c test
> > >
> > > - b test
> > > test
> >
> >
> > The problem with is this is following.  Suppose I made the item end
> > before the
> > empty line, as you suggest.  Then consider the following case:
> >
> > - a test
> >
> > - b test
> >
> > - c test
> >
> > If I now move "b" up, I get
> >
> > - b test
> > - a test
> >
> >
> > - c test
> >
> > I don't think there is a good solution to this problem - if you
> > know one, I would be interested.
> >
> > - Carsten
> >
>
>
> --
> Mike
>
>
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