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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: sebastien.miquel@posteo.eu Cc: emacs-orgmode Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1643311182; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=uXF1Qtx3MZJbn6IX6o9Vsx/fK8Rypk5RZ3SjLYIP1lA=; b=WhoAX0dPJESo0RcSXwQhxKyAQpYzT3Xoby6lz0LWghQT4bANDvDqWw+bJmsypDq+iwRbRi M7a/GBETJWGZ5Af3KfyUk8mLZ92/jOxbby3FGamtZIYmIiR+18wRh8xsXGRrRzckeG2dtl bike7L3zJvTBiBUz0oi7yvax+mCOTH2u42LagHlwE9fNDS9d9+GsDHBstJgkIwkdsnBAC6 drGwd5ocJYdCmosdNRh2dPrYc/IRbdyqTzWW4zHvaRmydgqHw1aWAljBIkHAOT/w1p4MB9 mmVSSuucOv4rwm8NhQyIf90j01/+6v6ICk730eZkxgBUdOM1VwBSnHPjKSP8dQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1643311182; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=tTA73sk5y+/LSP/vZjJhWDkLGlD8+N8j59IMOs7FjzvjjLq70L++lKTWq9+sii9nT6ebKf I6a4blaB/sf0Q7c5kjvWWni21sjLZpN/0x5eh3+FIWvRmGzCGLkgJaHB1WhT4mjFi2FADs RWJjUSKvIb6h4owO22JXVFTCcXMVz4OfDWUaAcirMgZ8YJqoisRQQ2W2rT6/+VTl5+ggE/ pFE4STj5U42u++vJSVY4PAQzgAsEIhrBCDrvSMaMi/ECeA7eVMQjLk4+PQwZiHPyUlUGod BhpuAztRQ5kW4kiaSqP4iVkGKgaZ1llD5tlQcH+BQxFOKzUcVbd4U2RUJLVsyA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=posteo.eu header.s=2017 header.b=i8cX+pIB; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=posteo.eu; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.53 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=pass header.d=posteo.eu header.s=2017 header.b=i8cX+pIB; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=posteo.eu; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 1FD231AEB7 X-Spam-Score: -3.53 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: HwwbiKFfhF6r Hi, Tom Gillespie writes: >> The change is local and minor. > We can't know that. I meant that the change to the syntax would be minor and local, with respect to the linked syntax document. > #+begin_src org > I spent $20 on food and was paid$-10 dollars by friends so > I am down $10. > #+end_src > [...] > #+begin_src org > Text a $A_BASH_VAR > Text b some-$-lisp-var > #+end_src > > The proposed change would break any file with a pattern like > this. As you say, your first example is a typo. As for the second example, it's a very uncommon pattern, and if such variable names occur in a document, they should either be inside src blocks, or inside verbatim or code markers. In both case, there's no breakage with respect to parsing, export and tangling. The fontification may fail though. It wont fail if your src blocks are fontified natively, and the fontification of $…$ can be globally disabled. > We have no way of seeing every org file that users have > written so we don't know the extent of the impact, and thus > have to assume that there would be some impact. Making > such a change with an unknown blast radius in the midst of > considering removing support for that syntax altogether is > inviting disaster. We can make an educated guess. It is quite likely that this change will fix more documents than it breaks. Hardly a disaster. Regards, -- Sébastien Miquel