From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: William Denton Subject: Re: Table aligning and editing in 9.2 Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2017 10:16:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: References: <871snizie1.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48304) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dqK50-0004gu-4Z for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Sep 2017 10:16:23 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dqK4w-0001Gl-4L for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Sep 2017 10:16:22 -0400 Received: from shell.miskatonic.org ([65.39.236.119]:59580) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dqK4v-0001FC-WE for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Sep 2017 10:16:18 -0400 In-Reply-To: <871snizie1.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" To: Nicolas Goaziou Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org On 7 September 2017, Nicolas Goaziou wrote: > What workflow are you missing? Note that typing in a shrunk column > expands it. Previously one could edit the contents of a cell in a shrunken column without doing anything special: move the point in, move to a position, then hit any key (space, delete, a letter), and the change is made. If a character is deleted then the => at the end comes closer; if added it moves away. C-c C-c or TAB realigns everything. Everything is directly editable: the text can be operated on without any barriers. But now the cell contents are locked until either a) C-C ` opens up an edit buffer (which was useful before for editing a long piece of text that got shrunk, but is a lot of work when you have something short like "Foo" in a <10> column and want to make it "Bar") or, as you point out, b) something is typed in the shrunk column. But when something is typed in a shrunk column, the column expands and the point is now at the start of the cell. To edit anything in the cell, you need to hit "a" or SPC or something just to get in there, then you need to delete it, then move to where you want to make a change, then edit. And then C-c C-c or TAB doesn't realign things, you need to hit C-c TAB. So the workflow is different, and in each piece it's more awkward. Everything works---and I appreciate that the code and implementation is much cleaner now---but it seems like some of the magic that makes Org tables so wonderful is now gone. :( Bill -- William Denton :: Toronto, Canada --- Listening to Art: https://listeningtoart.org/ https://www.miskatonic.org/ --- GHG.EARTH: http://ghg.earth/ Caveat lector. --- STAPLR: http://staplr.org/