From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Robert P. J. Day" Subject: Re: any org[/beamer] experts in the ottawa area available for consulting? Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 05:56:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: References: <87fw6qvpfj.fsf@pank.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60132) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TB0ju-00056U-Uh for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 05:57:16 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TB0jk-0002PX-5B for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 05:57:10 -0400 Received: from astoria.ccjclearline.com ([64.235.106.9]:46993) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TB0jk-0002PB-09 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 05:57:00 -0400 In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: John Hendy Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Rasmus On Sun, 9 Sep 2012, John Hendy wrote: > On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Rasmus wrote: > > "Robert P. J. Day" writes: > > > >> p.s. i asked this on the org list hoping for someone who also knows > >> beamer, of course. if that doesn't work, i can ask on the beamer > >> list, looking for someone who also knows org. :-) > > > > I don't get the question, I'm afraid. Could you reiterate questions > > more concretely? > > > > I *think* I get the question, but to Rasmus' point, could you provide > some examples of what an end product might look like? This would be a > tangible way for you to make the details of your request known. Rather > than base the request in reference to the site link you provided, > something more like: > - We have x number of courses, and each one has y article-style and z > presentation style teaching documents (manuals, tutorials, class > guides, etc.) > - An example of a representative manual is here: url > - An example of a representative presentation is here: url > - Repeat for any other documents you're looking to redo > > Then provide a ballpark example of what you're looking to transform > the above into. Perhaps link to a manual/presentation you've found > that you would like to emulate certain characteristics of? > > Lastly, a list of deliverables would be nice. For example, "I would like: > - A .emacs that could be shared among all documentation users > - A custom beamer template > - A custom LaTeX article class designed to produce the format above > - etc." > > Just some thoughts to help others respond to something more concrete. > > I looked around the site at the courseware section as you pointed out. > I think I get what you want, but it would still be helpful to have at > least some of the above for others in order to know what they are > being asked to do. It also helps some of us know what level of > org-mode knowledge would be required to help you. Lastly, what, if > any, compensation is involved. ok, i'll try to be as detailed as i can, even though i'm still trying to wrap my head around all of the features org-mode and beamer give me. (aside: while having someone do this for me remotely might work out, i'd still prefer to find someone local here in ottawa to sit down with since i'm not even going to *know* all the questions i want to ask until i see things happening.) my colleague and i are looking to both convert existing courseware manuals and write new manuals in beamer format. representative manuals can be seen here in both ODP and PDF format (my specialty will be the linux content manuals): http://www.opersys.com/training as you can see, the emphasis will be on the typical bulleted list format, while i personally will want to include *copious* amounts of source code snippets while writing about the linux kernel and device drivers. i am not an accomplished user of *any* of the technologies in the toolchain -- org-mode, emacs, latex or beamer. i have used emacs in outline mode for quite some time for *designing* new manuals and, for me, the whole outline mode feature of org-mode is essential; that's how i want to lay out and start writing new manuals. what i'm after is as much infrastructure as i need to get started writing one or more manuals. by infrastructure, i mean setting up a working directory on my ubuntu system which will support not just writing individual manuals, but factoring out common content (copyrights, etc) and being able to include it in all manuals arbitrarily. so, in the end, i'm after a fairly complete publishing and processing toolchain that will take me from writing .org files to the final beamer files for each manual. a recent example on this list shows why i'd like to hire someone to help, to save me time. i asked why a simple "H:3" option didn't give me three levels of headings, even though the org-mode user manual *clearly* suggested that's how to do it. a couple people responded, describing a need to use "require" and "org-e-beamer" and "org-export-dispatch". but while i'm sure that's the solution, i would *never* figured that out on my own since i would have had no idea where to look. what i'm after right now is a starting infrastructure so i can start cramming content into manuals, and i can tweak over time as i learn what else i can do. as for compensation, if you can help, let me know your rate and we can chat. rday -- ======================================================================== Robert P. J. Day Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday ========================================================================