From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Paolo Petta Subject: Re: Minor request: full support of "ESC" as Meta key Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 19:50:24 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1M90nR-0008MY-O3 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 26 May 2009 13:50:41 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1M90nM-0008Lh-PQ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 26 May 2009 13:50:41 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=45321 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1M90nM-0008Le-Mt for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 26 May 2009 13:50:36 -0400 Received: from fichte.ofai.at ([193.171.142.156]:41234) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1M90nL-0004NK-U0 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 26 May 2009 13:50:36 -0400 In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Carsten Dominik Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Dear Carsten - many thanks for following up on this (and to the list for bearing with me!) --- more in a direct/private email. Paolo On Tue, 26 May 2009, Carsten Dominik wrote: > Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 19:25:01 +0200 > From: Carsten Dominik > To: Paolo Petta > Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > Subject: Re: [Orgmode] Minor request: full support of "ESC" as Meta key > > Hi Paolo, > > normally, meta key bindings should automatically also affect ESC bindings. > So it should not be necessary, even though I see that I have done this in > some cases, very like upon requests like your's. > > If you try to come up with a list of affected bindings/commands, I will add > these specific bindings. However, as you have noticed, some keys in > orgstruct-mode may be difficult. > > - Carsten > > On May 24, 2009, at 2:15 AM, Paolo Petta wrote: > >> [Dear moderator: >> this is of course a minor remark, and it is clearly not up to me to >> decide whether it is worth while being recorded at all, let alone >> being spread to the mailing list! >> But I still do hope it is not considered a downright abuse of your time!] >> >> I only just started to look into Org: As "OS-hopper" using emacs regularly >> on different versions of Linux, Windows, and Mac OS, the comprehensive >> cross-platform support that Org promises is highly appealing. >> >> But trying to use Org relying on the Escape key as 'Meta', I discovered >> that Org's support in this regard is currently spotty. While for some key >> combinations both the [?\e (...)] and the [(meta ...)] variants are >> defined, it is only the [(meta ...)] definitions that are fully covered. >> For example, org-insert-todo-heading - one of the very first org-specific >> key-combinations introduced in the very useful Org tutorial - is mapped >> only to [(meta shift return)], the "ESC-based" equivalent [?\e (shift >> return)] is missing (org.el, line 13905). >> >> While I've tried to patch up org.el the best I could with the missing >> keymap definitions (and so far I have not run into problems), I am not >> proficient enough an elisp programmer to dare provide my fixes: e.g. I'm >> not at all sure to have made the correct additions to the section >> introduced with the comment >> ";; Special treatment needed for TAB and RET" on line 6836 of org.el; >> the specification of disputed keys on line 331ff in org.el would be another >> example. >> >> I would therefore like to ask to please consider putting 'full' coverage >> for both keymap variants on the todo list for an upcoming release. >> >> With many thanks in advance! >> >> Paolo >> -- >> Paolo Petta +43-1-5336112-12(Tel) >> Austrian Research Inst. for Artificial Intelligence +43-1-5336112-77(Fax) >> Freyung 6/6, A 1010 Vienna, Austria, Europe Paolo.Petta <@> ofai.at >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode -- Paolo Petta +43-1-5336112-12(Tel) Austrian Research Inst. for Artificial Intelligence +43-1-5336112-77(Fax) Freyung 6/6, A 1010 Vienna, Austria, Europe Paolo.Petta <@> ofai.at