First did my attempted update disclose anything new that's failed or were these issues already on the known bugs list? This is debian wheezy on an amd-64 k8 athelon machine. I do have an intel machine I could try as well if that might help. I'll preserve the typescript file attached to this message and can either put it in my public web space or send it again in the body of a message if it doesn't go through as an attachment. I ran make ./clean in the org-mode directory before I started the script command too. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- jude Remember Microsoft didn't write Tiger 10.4 or any of its successors.