* Bug with Unicode text on properties
@ 2007-09-01 1:42 Daniel Clemente
2007-09-01 10:29 ` Carsten Dominik
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From: Daniel Clemente @ 2007-09-01 1:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
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Hi, I attach a test file for some problems in org-5.07 when using
property names with characters like á é í...
Greetings,
Daniel
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Test file for properties with characters other than [a-zA-Z0-9]: áéíóú etc.
* Libros
:PROPERTIES:
:Título:
:Editorial:
:Tipo:
:Tipo_ALL: novela técnico referencia
:Núm_páginas:
:Leído:
:Leído_ALL: sí no
:END:
** LaTeX
:PROPERTIES:
:Título: LaTeX para tontos
:Editorial: B
:Tipo: técnico
:Leído: sí
:END:
* problems
With org-mode 5.07.
- [ ] „Leído_ALL“ at the definition and „Título“ at the section should be colored, just like the other fields
- [ ] when writing the fields of the sections, writing „:N“ and pressing M-Tab should autocomplete „:Núm_páginas:“, just as „:E“ autocompletes to „:Editorial:“
- [ ] go to the „:Leído: sí“ at the section and press S+Left/Right. It should change from „sí“ to „no“, just like the field „:Tipo:“, which changes
Cause of all: probably the regexp at org-buffer-property-keys.
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* Re: Bug with Unicode text on properties
2007-09-01 1:42 Bug with Unicode text on properties Daniel Clemente
@ 2007-09-01 10:29 ` Carsten Dominik
2007-09-01 20:30 ` Daniel Clemente
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From: Carsten Dominik @ 2007-09-01 10:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Daniel Clemente; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
On Sep 1, 2007, at 3:42, Daniel Clemente wrote:
> Hi, I attach a test file for some problems in org-5.07 when using
> property names with characters like á é í...
Hi Daniel,
yes, I can make the property regexps recognize non-ascii letters.
There are two issues here:
1. You are also using a dash-like character, \o4255. The Emacs
[:alnum:] class
does not match this, therefore this character will continue not to be
recognized. Use the underscore in property names, I am supporting
this.
2. Think twice before using non-ascii characters in property names.
This will make you file non-portable. If you send it to someone
living in a different locale, he/she might find the file broken.
- Carsten
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* Re: Bug with Unicode text on properties
2007-09-01 10:29 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2007-09-01 20:30 ` Daniel Clemente
2007-09-02 17:55 ` Carsten Dominik
0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Clemente @ 2007-09-01 20:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Hi,
>
> There are two issues here:
>
> 1. You are also using a dash-like character, \o4255. The Emacs
> [:alnum:] class
> does not match this, therefore this character will continue not to be
> recognized. Use the underscore in property names, I am supporting
> this.
Mmm... I used the normal underscore, _ (95, #o137, #x5f, U+005F). I
don't find \o4255.
>
> 2. Think twice before using non-ascii characters in property names.
> This will make you file non-portable. If you send it to someone
> living in a different locale, he/she might find the file broken.
>
ASCII doesn't work with my language (ex: Spanish); therefore I don't use it.
But what I used is Unicode, and I wouldn't call it „non-portable"
nowadays (it works everywhere on the Internet and operating systems).
Even if „there can be programs which don't support Unicode", that's
not a reason to not using Unicode; what we must do --in my opinion--
is fix the programs.
Greetings,
Daniel
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* Re: Bug with Unicode text on properties
2007-09-01 20:30 ` Daniel Clemente
@ 2007-09-02 17:55 ` Carsten Dominik
2007-09-02 21:42 ` William Henney
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From: Carsten Dominik @ 2007-09-02 17:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Daniel Clemente; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
On Sep 1, 2007, at 22:30, Daniel Clemente wrote:
> Hi,
>
>>
>> There are two issues here:
>>
>> 1. You are also using a dash-like character, \o4255. The Emacs
>> [:alnum:] class
>> does not match this, therefore this character will continue not
>> to be
>> recognized. Use the underscore in property names, I am supporting
>> this.
>
> Mmm... I used the normal underscore, _ (95, #o137, #x5f, U+005F). I
> don't find \o4255.
>
>>
>> 2. Think twice before using non-ascii characters in property names.
>> This will make you file non-portable. If you send it to someone
>> living in a different locale, he/she might find the file broken.
>>
> ASCII doesn't work with my language (ex: Spanish); therefore I
> don't use it.
> But what I used is Unicode, and I wouldn't call it „non-portable"
> nowadays (it works everywhere on the Internet and operating systems).
> Even if „there can be programs which don't support Unicode", that's
> not a reason to not using Unicode; what we must do --in my opinion--
> is fix the programs.
I agree, but it is a fact that text you sent me did not look at all
like spanish, but pretty much garbled.
Anyway, 5.08 will allow [[:alnum:]-_] for properties.
- Carsten
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* Re: Bug with Unicode text on properties
2007-09-02 17:55 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2007-09-02 21:42 ` William Henney
2007-09-03 7:26 ` Carsten Dominik
2007-09-03 16:20 ` Daniel Clemente
0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: William Henney @ 2007-09-02 21:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Hi Carsten
On 9/2/07, Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> wrote:
> I agree, but it is a fact that text you sent me did not look at all
> like spanish, but pretty much garbled.
Daniel's file (bug-properties.org) looked fine to me (although it did
have strange German-style speech marks). My emacs (22.1.1)
automatically recognised it as utf8. Strange that yours didn't...
Cheers
Will
--
Dr William Henney, Centro de Radioastronomía y Astrofísica,
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México, Campus Morelia
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* Re: Bug with Unicode text on properties
2007-09-02 21:42 ` William Henney
@ 2007-09-03 7:26 ` Carsten Dominik
2007-09-03 16:08 ` William Henney
2007-09-03 16:20 ` Daniel Clemente
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From: Carsten Dominik @ 2007-09-03 7:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: William Henney; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
On Sep 2, 2007, at 23:42, William Henney wrote:
> Hi Carsten
>
> On 9/2/07, Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> wrote:
>> I agree, but it is a fact that text you sent me did not look at all
>> like spanish, but pretty much garbled.
>
> Daniel's file (bug-properties.org) looked fine to me (although it did
> have strange German-style speech marks). My emacs (22.1.1)
> automatically recognised it as utf8. Strange that yours didn't...
>
Yes, strange. 22.1 here as well, under Mac OSX.
- Carsten
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Universiteit van Amsterdam
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* Re: Bug with Unicode text on properties
2007-09-03 7:26 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2007-09-03 16:08 ` William Henney
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From: William Henney @ 2007-09-03 16:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Carsten Dominik; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
On 9/3/07, Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> wrote:
> On Sep 2, 2007, at 23:42, William Henney wrote:
> > On 9/2/07, Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> wrote:
> >> I agree, but it is a fact that text you sent me did not look at all
> >> like spanish, but pretty much garbled.
> >
> > Daniel's file (bug-properties.org) looked fine to me (although it did
> > have strange German-style speech marks). My emacs (22.1.1)
> > automatically recognised it as utf8. Strange that yours didn't...
> >
>
> Yes, strange. 22.1 here as well, under Mac OSX.
>
To be more precise, I am using Aquamacs 1.1 on OS X 10.4.10 PPC G4.
However, I also tried it from the command line using the "-Q" option,
which supposedly turns off all the aquamacs-specific stuff, and it
still works (correctly identifies file as unicode).
Have you added an entry for org files to auto-coding-alist? Perhaps
"C-h C" (describe-coding-system") might help you debug it. Look at
"Priority order for recognizing coding systems when reading files".
Alternatively, maybe your mailer garbled the file when you saved it.
Cheers
Will
--
Dr William Henney, Centro de Radioastronomía y Astrofísica,
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México, Campus Morelia
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* Re: Bug with Unicode text on properties
2007-09-02 21:42 ` William Henney
2007-09-03 7:26 ` Carsten Dominik
@ 2007-09-03 16:20 ` Daniel Clemente
1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Clemente @ 2007-09-03 16:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
> On 9/2/07, Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> wrote:
> > I agree, but it is a fact that text you sent me did not look at all
> > like spanish, but pretty much garbled.
>
> Daniel's file (bug-properties.org) looked fine to me (although it did
> have strange German-style speech marks).
I must say that I like „these quotes" more than "this ones". So
that wasn't a technical bug :-)
> My emacs (22.1.1)
> automatically recognised it as utf8. Strange that yours didn't...
Some more things (which I forgot to send to the list):
MD5: 3c7973375c78fdf4183d2d209b0b330a
Wrote with emacs 22.1 on Debian.
From the mailing list archive, the file can be correctly fetched:
http://cache.gmane.org//gmane/emacs/orgmode/2881-001.bin
Anyway, the problem is not on org-mode, luckily.
Greetings,
Daniel
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