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From: Jan Seeger via "General discussions about Org-mode." <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
To: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Bug: org-no-popups disregards display-buffer-fallback-action 9.4.6
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2021 08:42:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ab181327-d040-5a8d-d824-db72b4d3b824@thenybble.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <06bed7f3-4f31-4d66-4314-18c08c8dbb34@gmail.com>

On 13.11.21 14:15, Max Nikulin wrote:
> On 10/11/2021 14:50, Jan Seeger wrote:
>>
>> I'm trying to make multi-frame emacsing nicer, and I encountered what I
>> consider a bug with the `org-no-popups` macro in `org-macs.el`.
>>
>> `org-no-popups` tries to surpress the creation of new frames via setting
>> `pop-up-frames` and `display-buffer-alist` to nil temporarily. This does
>> not take `display-buffer-fallback-action` into account, which is the
>> preferred way of making Emacs pop up new frames (or not, as the case may
>> be). When the fallback variable is set, code run inside `org-no-popups`
>> still creates new popups, which causes functions such as
>> `org-insert-link` to fail, or at least act *very* confusingly.
>>
>> The preferred way of overriding the behavior of `display-buffer` for
>> localized Emacs code seems to be the variable
>> `display-buffer-overriding-action`.
>>
>> Changing the definition of `org-no-popups` to
>>
>> ```
>> (defmacro org-no-popups (&rest body)
>>    "Suppress popup windows and evaluate BODY."
>>    `(let ((display-buffer-overriding-action
>> '(display-buffer-pop-up-window)))
>>       ,@body))
>> ```
>>
>> correctly makes org pop up windows instead of frames.
>
> There were enough threads concerning displaying of buffers in Org, e.g.
> https://list.orgmode.org/87mtnovv7f.fsf@alphapapa.net
> https://list.orgmode.org/87zgrgke4b.fsf@ucl.ac.uk
> Some users prefers multiple frames, others multiple windows in a full-screen frame. Could you, please, briefly describe what kind of behavior you are truing to achieve?
>
> Overriding `display-buffer-alist' was certainly a mistake, users should be able to customize window creation. My impression is that `org-no-popups' is used in different scenarios that should have different default behavior.
>
> Some Org buffers, in my opinion, should behave similarly to completion list. On the other hand `minibuffer-completion-help' does not use `display-buffer-overrining-action'. I do not like that this variable has higher priority than `display-buffer-alist'. Action argument of `display-buffer' is more appropriate since it keeps ability to customize placement of buffers with particular names through `display-buffer-alist'.
>
> Thank you for suggesting `display-buffer-pop-up-window', current way of suppressing pop-up frames is unreliable. I am considering another option: '(nil (inhibit-switch-frame . t)) and I am unsure which variant is better. Actually I can not say that I really understand supposed ways to use `display-buffer' and related functions. My original expectation was that emacs should have a high level function for buffers similar to "*Completions*".
>



  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-15  7:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-10  7:50 Bug: org-no-popups disregards display-buffer-fallback-action [9.4.6 (9.4.6-13-g4be129-elpaplus @ /home/jeeger/.emacs.d/elpa/org-plus-contrib-20210920/)] Jan Seeger via General discussions about Org-mode.
2021-11-10 10:20 ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-11-13 17:34   ` dal-blazej
2021-11-14  6:08     ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-11-14 12:13       ` Eric S Fraga
2021-11-14 12:40         ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-11-14 19:37           ` Eric S Fraga
2021-11-14 23:03       ` dal-blazej
2021-11-15  9:57         ` Eric S Fraga
2021-11-15 16:54           ` org-capture windows Max Nikulin
2021-11-15 18:29             ` Eric S Fraga
2021-11-15 19:40           ` Bug: org-no-popups disregards display-buffer-fallback-action [9.4.6 (9.4.6-13-g4be129-elpaplus @ /home/jeeger/.emacs.d/elpa/org-plus-contrib-20210920/)] Daniel Kraus
2021-11-15  7:41   ` Jan Seeger via General discussions about Org-mode.
2021-11-13 13:15 ` Bug: org-no-popups disregards display-buffer-fallback-action 9.4.6 Max Nikulin
2021-11-15  7:42   ` Jan Seeger via General discussions about Org-mode. [this message]
2021-11-15  7:49   ` Jan Seeger via General discussions about Org-mode.
2021-11-17 14:49     ` Max Nikulin

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