From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id iPnfDLAUrGCwqAAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 24 May 2021 23:03:44 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:8:6d80::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id 4EicCLAUrGATPwAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 24 May 2021 21:03:44 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A67A1257E0 for ; Mon, 24 May 2021 23:03:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:58582 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1llHje-00073u-80 for larch@yhetil.org; Mon, 24 May 2021 17:03:38 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43782) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1llHj1-00073a-Or for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 24 May 2021 17:02:59 -0400 Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:35755) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1llHiz-0001Fm-RZ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 24 May 2021 17:02:59 -0400 Received: from localhost ([::ffff:154.230.106.158]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000000ADF02.0000000060AC147E.0000491E; Mon, 24 May 2021 14:02:54 -0700 Date: Tue, 25 May 2021 00:01:28 +0300 From: Jean Louis To: Ypo Subject: =?utf-8?B?KOKcv+KVueKXoeKVuQ==?= =?utf-8?Q?=29?= there are always ways to go - Re: Sad tweet Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: Ypo , Org-mode References: <953848fb-9af7-494d-90f8-faba46a7cc19@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <953848fb-9af7-494d-90f8-faba46a7cc19@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/2.0.6 (2021-03-06) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." 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It's not worth it for minor things and if I cannot get some experience and confidence with minor things, then I likely won't ever make major contributions." > https://twitter.com/magit_emacs/status/1396536686570610697?s=19 Alright, but no need for desperation. There is a way forward. Make your own package, see (info "(elisp) Packaging") As when you make your own package you are extending Emacs. Then apply the package to be included in GNU ELPA: https://elpa.gnu.org on emacs-devel@gnu.org mailing list. That way you are contributing to GNU Emacs. Your package can improve some functions and thus get kudos from other users. Then it becomes so much easier to point out to your improvements and propose them to mainstream Emacs or Org mode. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns Sign an open letter in support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/