From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms0.migadu.com with LMTPS id iM6DIKvxf2BbWgAAgWs5BA (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 11:34:35 +0200 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:bcc0::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id WIxUHKvxf2DCXQAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 09:34:35 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CF3561171D for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 11:34:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost ([::1]:50038 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lZ9Fh-00005l-RC for larch@yhetil.org; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 05:34:33 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40996) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lZ9Ew-0008VZ-L7 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 05:33:46 -0400 Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:57959) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lZ9Es-0005LT-7f for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 05:33:46 -0400 Received: from localhost ([::ffff:41.202.241.57]) (AUTH: PLAIN securesender, TLS: TLS1.3,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 000000000002BEA5.00000000607FF172.00001FED; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 02:33:38 -0700 Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 12:33:04 +0300 From: Jean Louis To: Gustav =?utf-8?B?V2lrc3Ryw7Zt?= Subject: Re: Concerns about community contributor support Message-ID: Mail-Followup-To: Gustav =?utf-8?B?V2lrc3Ryw7Zt?= , TEC , "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" References: <87pmyuyssi.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/2.0.6 (2021-03-06) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" , TEC Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1618997675; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=phfNasnt3QqAfYHlikIIvx/ammWhojJH12EkXIiZfq8=; b=UtTrMEh7zDcqL+8mVTn7p6hZldFPyvvOwgwOA5doVLWcmtvPPhc1AmvbW+b6NTVYIUb3JY VuXbwNKaJXi2NacUZmxQWKaU602WBCIfQGi4OI+Ev8d6Ithi+RXUWK9feZEozbNJL1CsV6 CM02Klxjqq+bOcbQRbgA9XyLbCSR6y4za8OdE01Njhl2qRflwRQY5Tm4sIiCInmVqEgZFy IuUYC+Z98l7COgvOBicZUsQjb6qVSv2PnsQqM6RSDdyCmu89ZLrmSY9SudbjGDBQStHTeM 4lVWvdgDM8Rly4WNBJLb1GC7yELGZ7By5w7lDYYex/HrmmuhVYrh0gJrSzSeDQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1618997675; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=D2VOjc3HnN6SsRbmAfUJhtZfajLkYhIZ5rsJ7J3iWhg20VgQVyzbUgPpgLYJ+NiSa0G4/N F7yChdRtJ8hrBCdK1a7C1+ugaNmZZVXVqATSQq99Dlu0ZXn7iykG/d/w/Cjw0o+TvUjHWi qfAOAgO5mR79R2ZyK15PedQp+pVEPJlO8YF7zFLoQsRFzwPVWoB09heAPKwgC9gMFDZSRq 0Hm4Lr3hmYtrYq5PsH8sWSXuNqsN7MypiLWn17JzHdTzkqhfnSGEJqrQCSuweCgz1aah9G 0eoOA7oIXpcjMEJO59g2qfX+H7So23LPhSLI3tiqIaim20aNzOaNOkUgMxuJAQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.94 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: CF3561171D X-Spam-Score: -1.94 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: LihPdd8AvkK2 It should be clear that more maintainers and developers with direct access are needed for patches to be applied timely. I am sure that those on emacs-devel mailing list, Emacs developers, they could help on that, but maybe some of them do not observe this mailing list. Number of not applied patches does not seem to be that large. Project leader shall have his team and delegate them to other developers. This situation badly contradicts to Org mode purposes which is meant to manage patches. Maybe there shall be a published list of developers and project managers, so that this type of communication may be addressd properly. As now original poster explained the problem, but I did not see response from none of pushers, I mean those who have repository access. So how many people are there who have repository access? Who is not busy but willing to apply at least 1-5 patches pending? Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns Sign an open letter in support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/ https://rms-support-letter.github.io/