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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1674968101; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=iWIBTlbCbpY+QrXlhedOAnchED5v6DrGAfKx/BaQeDg=; b=OXsqlXodTGG4IwCoxq23Ai9ycSRL+8d7vBZrbhFJ5iR6sb3addU+wE4s/UqcgjIMHERVkT Q+q90SLuBGkPi2+2cG0fDDpzI9QrMPtjFaB8o7F9wDimLHMpSbZpPHQYClKlTKgzZEcOZZ ehO0Vi06XZqtUbiqqKNj5LSglauSC+i/vWSUIc4JpUb5O595MP9fc27dsfmtlMLzrr8HMX 7Cs8hAyNukumRUErhplupY7W3cs6TykEFlL8XcZrnNddO7N8jiXNGmAEiwpMk1+Go9xsqT kUjesny3vxS/tjz+ac6KYjU42v3mL7NfCYmQXtBmvafA8+q1EKcPwuzM85DyZA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1674968101; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=FzbmmT5CBsXiZMxL13F0HEO/6g7vzVwjfnCijdOddg0RMY8539q9R9k+BqVEAVMhhmAGYp BXe6ddamuuCIgHoEMPkG3cox1GzzDNmuGkrIGVudZnl1evD2gHMVVYHy0SXyNkbAzL46Kn 02Z7DOVi2/O8lTE+KZlrAFAAubCLj1BZ/jferqu97VmS6dJhpknFFqoV47touoTTI+Vy8h 5J90YO/C+eqvOewq2ngjsVd/t+rg+4fppDdoymlAw72Zp7ZsZO0Ipxrg9uhJsvHSAwZB7G vWhOptAmUB7bn+2E9huHOjaiXC+5LmO/jELlOq8qhf3WbaUDziGdb7jhO90GFQ== X-Spam-Score: -2.37 X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -2.37 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: D290F29F3D X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: wupz1px5gTr+ * Gregor Zattler [2023-01-28 17:09]: > Yes, because what they are measuring is "email opens" via > web pixels and such tracking technologies. That's might be > a reason why Thunderbird does not show up there. > > So while this data somehow shows the sad state of affairs, > it is not relevant to the question of linking to emails. > Obviously Emacs caters to a tiny niche, yes. But how does > it do or should do? Thanks for comments. Emacs is used by many millions of people, at least installed. Not maybe daily used, real number of users is difficult to determine. Though Emacs users of Emacs e-mail packages must be less. Still it must be a significant number of people. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/