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If those special "continuations" are not considered sections > structurally, it is unclear how to represent them when exporting to > LaTeX/HTML/etc. The most painful is situation with third-party exporters > that may need to be adapted. That's why I was suggesting a "low profile" approach. "Official" Org shouldn't have to care about it (after all, for those interested, it isn't that difficult to make a derived exporter). Perhaps that "feature" ends up as something needing special exporters (after all, for (La)TeX, Markdown, (possibly?) OpenDocument, the exporters will have to do "funny stuff", because the target document model doesn't know what we are talking about. For this idea to bear any weight, I think first is having interested users agreeing on some conventions. The tools will come, I wouldn't start with those (perhaps only as proof of concept, to test and validate ideas). It'd be too early now to commit Org to that, potentially ossifying stuff of which we don't know yet whether it is a good idea at all. As far as I am concerned, I don't think the feature is important enough to complexify Org, but (a) I see that there are people who really want it (and offer myself as sparring partner to bounce ideas off) and (b) Org is chock full of features I'd rather not have, but others need badly. Software is like that :-) Thanks & cheers --=20 t --HGqFz+AM565sTnvC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABECAB0WIQRp53liolZD6iXhAoIFyCz1etHaRgUCY6wFMwAKCRAFyCz1etHa Rs7vAJ9wVvjSIhkmxnedLZhEMB3RHjAv3gCggTsRaByzY+1y9l1cMVqYmgKdkDA= =SDPn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --HGqFz+AM565sTnvC--