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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1666694854; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=eqUBZOPWk7KXJMt6+UABLZYFb4/RZk/D6o0leKVrgh0=; b=gvFvIUENDmUqyrC2rG4DZ49zzI+8l/8zPmWT/Mcgb9jA3QxGtBTbB/T0ptjalWaiouydG+ wIPgUsF7lIsotwDZ72uaJlI4cBOJ1LDN4JReoyXXOFcm2DGeWYRT6IMojWfYCa4fNtVYsf f2dLgQ/qhoIEc3UhoOgvb3wXSGCNm8FaxGehev8P3sMThLeVGtNhXtVJngT842khUk/XCm c6VlKqtFTYvG6o0R9Xgeh0Kw2A4caV+hDx3kbuNkLN5zD/3f5nNy09kB5XZKW2nfTesxQU 4+dvafOO3LFjtEtcCT8zfV8LYmfjWi+4t89SWRZSyF3hfEVYfTiAd2rKsaQ5oQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1666694854; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=Lp2iBXSdosUs+pax0vfz/b69/PNMl2kByB3CPj0NsbQQBquuMaVW6PENhtQdvhTaljP7fR BQjbbImXvtPdFbclVtiPvbBeKz/uy/xLw4nLcife0+23AYSQ8C7wf+yApH5IR6DachrXfc +TBCPS+hnye0zlNlsIqw2u6ybToDjlmAxrd101L8z4rSdSNjX0O8EhLsI7TrAXOXKYYkZo 2x5Mg/dKJPg9ZYUJvW4qifrLOHuFPcwz0glgxdDsK2ASjcLEy3+9Jb6gI+uj6eNF4MhhWM lCZC582sLHfUiA03m9zWAdRPY3vj+ahXGWQIz3cVFORtPtgSw/vJ5dbtnTVo/g== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -0.91 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: B0F9923E53 X-Spam-Score: -0.91 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: EaLWPMlOzs/J * Ihor Radchenko [2022-10-25 10:30]: > > These words cheat the reader by telling that it is "compatible" > > something, while it is not editor mode, it is probably whole editor > > and software without Emacs. > > Are you saying that there is GPL violation of Org mode licence by this > "EasyOrg" app? I did not say that. Plagiarism is not always equal to license violations. > If it is true, could you please provide links to legal basis on from > GPL's and Swedish law's points of view? In my opinion the term "Org Mode" is collective trademark: Trademark FAQs | USPTO: https://www.uspto.gov/learning-and-resources/trademark-faqs#type-browse-faqs_1934 valid only for US jurisdiction. Trademarks need not be registered, especially when it is clear who was first using it, there is no doubt that Org Mode is term used to promote software and software is commercial subject. Those who started using first "Org Mode", like author or whoever is assigned to it, are free to tell to the website, to stop using it, or demand part of their profits in Sweden. -- Jean Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: https://www.fsf.org/campaigns In support of Richard M. Stallman https://stallmansupport.org/