From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp2 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id CA0NHxid119WVQAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 17:12:56 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp2 with LMTPS id sDbbGhid119oGgAAB5/wlQ (envelope-from ) for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 17:12:56 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D51A6940356 for ; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 17:12:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:45410 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1korP3-0001LS-Mm for larch@yhetil.org; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 12:12:53 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53232) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1korJ4-0002ZZ-VV for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 12:06:42 -0500 Received: from stw1.rcdrun.com ([217.170.207.13]:41305) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1korJ2-0005bt-Ik for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 12:06:42 -0500 Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.157.34.185]) (AUTH: PLAIN securesender, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by stw1.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000000308FB.000000005FD79B9D.00005D25; Mon, 14 Dec 2020 10:06:37 -0700 Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 20:02:11 +0300 From: Jean Louis To: TEC Subject: Re: Emacs as an Org LSP server Message-ID: References: <87o8kf69tm.fsf@ucc.asn.au> <87v9d66l75.fsf@gmail.com> <87a6ugpftr.fsf@gmail.com> <877dpkpefs.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <877dpkpefs.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/2.0 (3d08634) (2020-11-07) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=217.170.207.13; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=stw1.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Neil Jerram , org-mode-email Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.81 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Migadu-Queue-Id: D51A6940356 X-Spam-Score: -1.81 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn0.migadu.com X-TUID: MSLw16NT4FFC It may all look nice and shiny. But what you people don't understand is that it is Microsoft and deep meaning of Microsoft one can know if one researches the history as only so one can see the present and look into future. Microsoft never changed its strategies. Language server protocol is just another branch of possible strategies to take away people's computing. It is matter of advertising and making it popular, when all the fish are in the net that is where final result comes, and that is to take away people's freedom and computing to centralized places. If Microsoft is really so friendly, then instead of server based language service they could provide generic definitions how editor could act, and editor could load those generic definitions locally without server/client paradigm. Now Emacs, as prime tool of the GNU project, as free software, is then supposed to communicate with something external to receive information on how to do its functions? One big LOL on that! What will be next? Maybe computers without hard disks that simply load all they need from Microsoft. Let us give away our computing to Microsoft. What people do not understand is that large and evil corporation such as Microsoft never does any move without strategic planning and without objective. Try to recognize patterns. Then better right away stop developing language packages for Emacs and give away computing to corporations. Jean