From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp1 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id kNdDDj5Fw1+OWAAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2020 06:52:46 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp1 with LMTPS id eG5bCT5Fw1+/IAAAbx9fmQ (envelope-from ) for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2020 06:52:46 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9469394011A for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2020 06:52:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:48420 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kjGZf-00058m-Ju for larch@yhetil.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2020 01:52:44 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48818) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kjGZ7-00057K-2k for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2020 01:52:09 -0500 Received: from static.rcdrun.com ([95.85.24.50]:44163) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kjGZ5-00089n-C1 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2020 01:52:08 -0500 Received: from localhost ([::ffff:197.157.0.29]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by static.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000002C000B.000000005FC34515.00005E6E; Sun, 29 Nov 2020 06:52:04 +0000 Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2020 09:50:34 +0300 From: Jean Louis To: daniela-spit@gmx.it Subject: Re: Adding Org Files to org-agenda-files Message-ID: References: <87wny5dy6j.fsf@gmail.com> <87r1od181i.fsf@gmail.com> <87h7p9135u.fsf@gmail.com> <87sg8tymeb.fsf@gmail.com> <87k0u4zupw.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/2.0 (3d08634) (2020-11-07) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.85.24.50; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=static.rcdrun.com X-Spam_score_int: 29 X-Spam_score: 2.9 X-Spam_bar: ++ X-Spam_report: (2.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS=3.335, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=1.5, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Tim Cross , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -1.77 X-Scanner: ns3122888.ip-94-23-21.eu Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-TUID: qvMpK5ecZIos * daniela-spit@gmx.it [2020-11-29 07:06]: > That looks adequate at first, but what if you want the history for a project > and gaant charts on how time was spent. I mainly want it to figure out > if jobs are worth stopping or changing. Here are some references: https://orgmode.org/worg/org-tutorials/org-taskjuggler.html https://github.com/swillner/org-gantt/blob/master/org-gantt-manual.org https://github.com/swillner/org-gantt For me, tracking of how time was spent is out of use. I am tracking products or services delivered, something valuable produced and real. As value is what I need. Time is environment where values are produced and does not necessarily speak of values. ** TODO Project has several tasks which I keep rather in lists [0/3] [0%] :PROPERTIES: :ASSIGNED: James :END: 1) [ ] Purchase X equipment at ABC store. 2) [ ] bring X equipment to location XYZ and introduce yourself to technician 3) [ ] give the technical drawing to technician Now if person assigned to do those tasks does not purchase equipment, I would not like spending my time analyzing where the time went because neither there is no value from not doing it, neither from me analyzing. If tasks are in logical order then I know where the person is stuck and we have both agreement as we know what is NEXT to be done as tasks are numbered and even if not numbered they can be in chronological order. Count values, not time. Jean