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From: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
To: Maxim Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Bring up a screen giving option to open a series of orgmode files
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2020 21:10:13 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <X8KShSKW5WfEp1of@protected.rcdrun.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <rptstb$c41$1@ciao.gmane.io>

* Maxim Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> [2020-11-28 19:13]:
> 2020-11-27 Jean Louis wrote:
> > * Alan Schmitt [2020-11-27 11:15]:
> > 
> > > https://github.com/fuxialexander/org-pdftools). There is also the
> > > org-noter option (https://github.com/weirdNox/org-noter) to link
> > > external annotations to pdfs.
> > 
> > Annotations are long time envisioned feature that is very poorly
> > implemented in any hyperdocument systems. Hypothes.is implement it for
> > WWW but WWW could be better designed to allow easier
> > annotations. Browsers are missing it all over.
> 
> A remark just to ensure that there is no confusion. PDF format has its own
> annotations that are saved inside the file (highlights, text notes,
> drawings). It is quite convenient to comment e.g. draft version of a paper.
> Another use case is working with a document on a tablet.
> 
> External annotations are certainly powerful but sometimes they are not an
> equivalent.

Your remark is quite good.

Then once annotated document has been prepared as PDF such can be
referenced by constructed hyperlink from other hypertext systems.

One problem with such PDF is that annotations may be confidential or
not public and that remains to people to solve their access
permissions. Other case is providing simple annotations for online
PDFs that are not on one's own server.

On my side solving that by referencing to people over WWW involves
creating separate WWW page with annotation over the online accessible
PDF page. It may be harder to read but still solves problem to
certain degree.

Let us say I wish to reference Memex, instead of:

Memex
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memex

then there would be reference like this rather:

Memex
https://www.example.com/1/2/3/643

and on such intermediary website, one could get hyperlinks and
annotations to the original website. Such annotations, comments,
notes, and other relations to the final hyperdocument could be updated
in the mean time while the original URL as reference
https://www.example.com/1/2/3/643 remains static.

Upon opening of the intermediary URL https://www.example.com/1/2/3/643
the destination URL could be opened as well in a new window by using
Javascript. Though I do not prefer that approach.

The annotating page could look something like below, with maybe more
various references to the subject being referenced and various
hyperlinks automatically displayed. There are Emacs packages that
allow Emacs buffers to be htmlized.

Memex
=====
     Tags: memex 
     Type: WWW
Hyperlink: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memex

Memex is  the name of  the hypothetical electromechanical  device that
Vannevar Bush  described in his 1945  article "As We May  Think". Bush
envisioned the memex  as a device in which  individuals would compress
and store all of their books, records, and communications, "mechanized
so that it may be consulted with exceeding speed and flexibility". The
memex would provide an "enlarged intimate supplement to one's memory".








  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-28 18:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-22 10:01 Gerardo Moro
2020-11-22 10:09 ` Jean Louis
2020-11-22 17:35   ` Berry, Charles via General discussions about Org-mode.
2020-11-22 18:33     ` Jean Louis
2020-11-22 19:03     ` Gerardo Moro
2020-11-22 19:15       ` Jean Louis
2020-11-23  3:59         ` Gerardo Moro
2020-11-23  5:21           ` Jean Louis
2020-11-23  8:12             ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-11-23  8:40               ` Gerardo Moro
2020-11-23  9:11                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-11-23  9:14                   ` Gerardo Moro
2020-11-23  9:14               ` Jean Louis
2020-11-24  4:07                 ` Gerardo Moro
2020-11-24  7:26                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-11-24  7:23                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-11-24  9:28                   ` Gerardo Moro
2020-11-24  9:57                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-11-24 16:26                       ` Jean Louis
2020-11-25  3:41                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-11-25  5:36                           ` Jean Louis
2020-11-25  7:15                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-11-25 11:20                               ` Browser org-capture bookmarklet Jean Louis
2020-11-25 12:51                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-11-25 14:12                                   ` Jean Louis
2020-11-25 14:50                                   ` Jean Louis
2020-12-02  9:07                               ` Bring up a screen giving option to open a series of orgmode files Jean Louis
2020-12-02  9:53                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-12-02 10:19                                   ` Jean Louis
2020-12-02  9:24                               ` Jean Louis
2020-12-02  9:56                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-12-02 10:14                                   ` Jean Louis
2020-11-24 17:41                       ` Jean Louis
2020-12-02 10:17                       ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-11-27  2:40                   ` Jean Louis
2020-11-27  8:15                     ` Alan Schmitt
2020-11-27 12:04                       ` Jean Louis
2020-11-28 16:12                         ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-11-28 18:10                           ` Jean Louis [this message]
2020-11-28 15:51                     ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-11-28 17:59                       ` Jean Louis
2020-11-30  9:35                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-11-30 10:45                           ` Jean Louis
2020-12-01  2:38                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-12-01 10:30                               ` Jean Louis
2020-11-30 17:08                         ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-11-30 18:33                           ` Jean Louis
2020-12-02 16:41                             ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-12-02 17:24                               ` Jean Louis
2020-12-09 13:00                               ` Jean Louis
2020-12-09 15:03                                 ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-12-09 16:32                                   ` Jean Louis
2020-12-09 16:49                                     ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-12-10  0:04                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-12-11  6:54                                       ` Jean Louis
2020-12-11 14:40                                         ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-12-11 15:22                                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-12-12  3:22                                             ` Jean Louis
2020-12-13  0:42                                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-12-13 15:00                                                 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-14 12:58                                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-12-14 19:08                                                     ` Jean Louis
2020-12-14 22:27                                                       ` TRS-80
2020-12-14 22:33                                                         ` Jean Louis
2020-12-15  4:42                                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-12-15  5:00                                                           ` Jean Louis
2020-12-16  2:59                                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-12-16  4:05                                                               ` Tom Gillespie
2020-12-18 12:35                                                               ` Jean Louis
2020-12-16  1:48                                                           ` TRS-80
2020-12-16 12:40                                                           ` Maxim Nikulin
2020-12-12  2:49                                           ` Jean Louis
2020-12-13  0:48                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-12-13 15:13                                               ` Jean Louis
2020-12-13 18:02                                                 ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-13 20:31                                                   ` Jean Louis
2020-12-14  0:34                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2020-12-14  0:34                                                   ` Jean Louis
2020-12-14  0:35                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
     [not found]                     ` <874kl7172r.fsf@localhost>
2020-11-30 10:51                       ` Jean Louis
2020-11-22 21:23       ` Berry, Charles via General discussions about Org-mode.
2020-11-23  9:52 ` Diego Zamboni
2020-11-23 21:04   ` Jean Louis
2020-11-24  9:53 ` John Sturdy
2020-11-24 10:04   ` Detlef Steuer
2020-11-24 13:44     ` Jean Louis
2020-11-24 14:38   ` Jean Louis

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