From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mp0 ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by ms11 with LMTPS id yEM7Djv9rl8YCAAA0tVLHw (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 21:40:11 +0000 Received: from aspmx1.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:2:4a6f::]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by mp0 with LMTPS id +AEzCjv9rl/sXAAA1q6Kng (envelope-from ) for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 21:40:11 +0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [209.51.188.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by aspmx1.migadu.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DD1689401BF for ; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 21:40:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([::1]:58200 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kdgnh-0007LH-Rp for larch@yhetil.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 16:40:09 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33782) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kdgm6-0006IA-Nb for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 16:38:30 -0500 Received: from static.rcdrun.com ([95.85.24.50]:41805) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kdgm4-00089O-Gj for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 16:38:30 -0500 Received: from localhost ([::ffff:41.202.241.56]) (AUTH: PLAIN admin, TLS: TLS1.2,256bits,ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by static.rcdrun.com with ESMTPSA id 00000000002C0006.000000005FAEFCD1.00003D70; Fri, 13 Nov 2020 21:38:24 +0000 Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 00:38:08 +0300 From: Jean Louis To: Gustavo Barros Subject: Re: Changed list indentation behavior: how to revert? Message-ID: References: <2020-11-13T18-23-43@devnull.Karl-Voit.at> <871rgxotcv.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <871rgxotcv.fsf@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/2.0 (3d08634) (2020-11-07) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=95.85.24.50; envelope-from=bugs@gnu.support; helo=static.rcdrun.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/11/13 16:09:19 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Karl Voit , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Karl Voit Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-Scanner: ns3122888.ip-94-23-21.eu Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=emacs-orgmode-bounces@gnu.org X-Spam-Score: 1.99 X-TUID: srjsHGLq5jnU * Gustavo Barros [2020-11-14 00:12]: > I'll answer, because I feel somewhat responsible for your upgrade. ;-) > > Since recently Org is set to respect Emacs' `eletric-indent-mode'. If > I'm not mistaken, it made to the 9.4 release, I presume that's what you > are getting. > > You can find the Org News entry, and how to get the previous behavior > back in: > https://code.orgmode.org/bzg/org-mode/src/master/etc/ORG-NEWS#L323 > > A couple of threads that might help understand the change and the > reasoning behind it: > https://orgmode.org/list/877dxpazbo.fsf_-_@gmail.com/ > https://orgmode.org/list/878sfbycip.fsf@iki.fi/ Then I find it wrong for the following reason: - when I am typing: ** New ^ cursor appears here and that is wrong. *** More ^ cursor appears here So that is wrong because I have started writing the line at position 0 and you are counting it after stars. If somebody however writes like this: ** New Then it would be alright to indent as: ** New - here list - more here but it is not alright to do this: ** New - new - new As that does not align with that what electric-indent really does. I hope you will revert back that change as it is very disturbing. Thank you. Jean