From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Subject: Variable 'org-ctrl-k-protect-subtree' defaults to nil Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 15:14:27 +0000 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1984364855==" Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=49749 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PDIZc-0007LL-Al for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Nov 2010 11:14:59 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PDIZA-0001JK-Ro for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Nov 2010 11:14:29 -0400 Received: from snt0-omc1-s22.snt0.hotmail.com ([65.55.90.33]:26884) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PDIZA-0001J2-Od for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Nov 2010 11:14:28 -0400 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org --===============1984364855== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_e3ef4be6-0c35-4b0c-a917-aef938d5f1a6_" --_e3ef4be6-0c35-4b0c-a917-aef938d5f1a6_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi everyone=2C It's the first time I'm giving any feedback on org-mode=2C so first of all = I would like to congratulate the original creator and all contributors on a= very interesting and useful work. I've discovered org-mode only a couple of weeks ago and was intrigued enoug= h to restart using emacs=2C after several years away from it! I've been stu= dying Org's documentation and tutorials=2C and started using it to help me = manage my relocation from Brazil to Italy. What I am reporting=2C technically=2C is a feature: the fact that variable = 'org-ctrl-k-protect-subtree' defaults to nil. But considering how easy this= makes to lose a whole subtree of data=2C especially for a newcomer to org-= mode=2C I think it should be considered a serious bug. As a matter of fact= =2C I am very surprised that C-k would be considered an admissible alternat= ive to C-c C-x C-w/M-w=2C as a way to kill a subtree! I propose that 'org-ctr-k-protect-subtree' is made to default to 't' ASAP (= already costumized it in that way on my setup)=2C and that the behavior of = C-k on headings is made consistent: kill to the end of line=2C regardless o= f the visibility of the subtree. Best regards=2C Paulo Tavares. = --_e3ef4be6-0c35-4b0c-a917-aef938d5f1a6_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi everyone=2C

It's the first time I'm giving any feedback on org-mo= de=2C so first of all I would like to congratulate the original creator and= all contributors on a very interesting and useful work.

I've discov= ered org-mode only a couple of weeks ago and was intrigued enough to restar= t using emacs=2C after several years away from it! I've been studying Org's= documentation and tutorials=2C and started using it to help me manage my r= elocation from Brazil to Italy.

What I am reporting=2C technically= =2C is a feature: the fact that variable 'org-ctrl-k-protect-subtree' defau= lts to nil. But considering how easy this makes to lose a whole subtree of = data=2C especially for a newcomer to org-mode=2C I think it should be consi= dered a serious bug. As a matter of fact=2C I am very surprised that C-k wo= uld be considered an admissible alternative to C-c C-x C-w/M-w=2C as a way = to kill a subtree!

I propose that 'org-ctr-k-protect-subtree' is mad= e to default to 't' ASAP (already costumized it in that way on my setup)=2C= and that the behavior of C-k on headings is made consistent: kill to the e= nd of line=2C regardless of the visibility of the subtree.

= =3B =3B Best regards=2C

=3B =3B =3B =3B =3B= Paulo Tavares.
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