From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: David Masterson Subject: Re: Package System questions ? Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2018 03:58:59 +0000 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58670) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gY16W-0002Ms-JK for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Dec 2018 22:59:05 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gY16T-0001NT-8A for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Dec 2018 22:59:04 -0500 Received: from mail-oln040092000106.outbound.protection.outlook.com ([40.92.0.106]:37452 helo=NAM01-BN3-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gY16S-0001N9-U7 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Dec 2018 22:59:01 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Allen Li's message of "Fri, 14 Dec 2018 18:01:28 -0800") Content-Language: en-US List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" To: Allen Li Cc: Org Mode List Allen Li writes: > On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 3:46 PM David Masterson = wrote: >> >> Am I reading the startup process right? >> >> In GNU Emacs v26+, it appears that package-initialize is run out of >> startup.el which is run (I think) before the various "init" files. >> Therefore, it is hardcoding the assumptions that: >> >> 1. The standard packages are in site-lisp or elpa directories. >> 2. The user packages are in .emacs.d/elpa directory. >> >> This means that, if you set up a number of package-archives to install >> packages from (such as "melpa"), all of the packages must be installed >> in "elpa" directories in your local setup. This would seem to be a >> configuration issue. > > From the NEWS file in emacs master: > > ** Emacs can now be configured using an early init file. > The file is called 'early-init.el', in 'user-emacs-directory'. It is > loaded very early in the startup process: before graphical elements > such as the tool bar are initialized, and before the package manager > is initialized. The primary purpose is to allow customizing how the > package system is initialized given that initialization now happens > before loading the regular init file (see below). Thanks for the pointer. Hadn't heard of this init file. > Also, this question belongs on the Emacs mailing list rather than > the Org mode mailing list. Very good point. I've been around long enough to know better. -- David