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If I tried to install it as usual (M-x list-packages, then > install the package from there), I had errors during compilation related > to `org-assert-version`, and then if I restarted Emacs, I would get a > fatal error in an unrelated package. > > I managed to solve that problem by: > 1. uninstalling Org 9.6 and exiting Emacs, > 2. starting Emacs with -q, > 3. installing Org 9.6 from there (using M-x list-packages as usual), > 4. restarting Emacs. Interesting! I tried this (essentially) and it worked for my case. In my case, I had a built-in Org-9.3 and I was trying to use list-packages to install Org-9.6. I checked that using -q still added Org-9.3 to the load-path, but, since Org wasn't loaded, the install via list-packages worked. The question is what's the proper way of doing this without '-q'? > I'm not sure this is related to your problem, or whether that helps (but > I hope it does)... I think it does. Side note: In my testing, I found a strange case where, in *scratch*, I get: (message "%s" org-version) ;; Error undefined ;; Do 'C-h v org-version' (message "%s" org-version) 9.3 So, 'describe-variable' on org-version causes Org to be loaded?!? Why do I have a feeling this is related to this bug? -- David Masterson