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From: David Masterson <dsmasterson92630@outlook.com>
To: Sebastian Miele <sebastian.miele@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Empty headline titles unsupported: Bug?
Date: Tue, 25 May 2021 14:04:42 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <SJ0PR03MB54553FAFE9297441BE7D0CC79B259@SJ0PR03MB5455.namprd03.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87tumqaj6h.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> (Nicolas Goaziou's message of "Tue, 25 May 2021 18:10:14 +0200")

Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> writes:

> Sebastian Miele <sebastian.miele@gmail.com> writes:

>> Sebastian Miele <sebastian.miele@gmail.com> writes:
>>>David Masterson <dsmasterson92630@outlook.com> writes:
>>>> Sebastian Miele <sebastian.miele@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>> Currently org-syntax.org says that "TITLE can be made of any
>>>>> character but a new line.  Though, it will match after every other
>>>>> part have been matched."  This does not reflect the currently
>>>>> effective behavior that "* :t:" is a headline with title ":t:" and no
>>>>> tags.

>>>> Can you describe what should happen in a parser grammar (ie. BNF)?  If
>>>> not, I would tend toward rethinking the structure of the Org file so
>>>> that it can be described in a grammar.  Having a good grammar for Org
>>>> files will promote it's acceptance beyond Emacs.

>>> [...]  However, the way I understand the above quote from
>>> org-syntax.org (which is, I think, in the end preferable) [...]

>> To be clearer: Preferable to the way it currently is implemented.
>>
>> In the headline "* :t:", the above quote from org-syntax.org (at least
>> in my way of reading it) means TAGS ":t:"

> This is your way of reading it, but it's unfortunately not the sole way
> to look at it. Also, I'm sympathetic to Ihor Radchenko's desire to see
> consistent code in that area. But being consistent means we favor one
> interpretation over the other.

Is there anything wrong with that?

> Currently, what Org does in this situation is unimportant, because the
> behaviour is simply undefined, which is, IMO, tolerable. If we decide to
> define it, it needs to be documented.

But having undefined behaviors is limiting on the portability of Org
because people are unwilling to pick it up and attempt to (say) create a
(partial) Org for other platforms (iPhone, Android, etc.). 

-- 
David Masterson


  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-25 21:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-22 11:15 Sebastian Miele
2021-05-22 12:21 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-23  4:45   ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-05-23 14:06     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-23 14:33       ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-05-23 14:55         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-23 15:22           ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-05-24 11:01             ` Sebastian Miele
2021-05-24 10:37       ` Sebastian Miele
2021-09-26  9:04     ` Bastien
2021-09-26 23:47       ` Tom Gillespie
2021-09-27 19:59       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-09-29 11:26     ` Bastien
2021-05-24 10:46 ` Sebastian Miele
2021-05-24 22:17   ` David Masterson
2021-05-25 10:43     ` Sebastian Miele
2021-05-25 11:43       ` Sebastian Miele
2021-05-25 16:10         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-25 21:04           ` David Masterson [this message]
2021-05-25 23:06             ` Tim Cross
2021-05-26 23:37               ` David Masterson
2021-05-26 14:07           ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-05-26 23:42             ` David Masterson
2021-05-27  3:29               ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-05-27 22:35                 ` David Masterson
2021-05-28  5:36                   ` Tom Gillespie
2021-05-29  6:21                     ` David Masterson
2021-05-29  6:54                       ` Tom Gillespie
2021-05-29  8:04                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-05-29 19:33                           ` Tom Gillespie
2021-05-30  4:06                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-05-29 14:09                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-05-30  2:19                     ` David Masterson

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