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X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Migadu-Country: US ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yhetil.org; s=key1; t=1642103653; h=from:from:sender:sender:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post:dkim-signature; bh=yqMvSl7bXa90otdxamd64YYUe5iOgBLsQkB72z5XBnU=; b=u43pUKhI9759U0bbTSI9sxX0TZ4qUO3feL5bfnluiNW78faSsLnTExcfQ8r2X9giEHu2Aw 2kct/YmWPV/XINvG/GcirTqVzKyw9agajDlia4mcwGWawEQkdtjmZiOfJMXxLo6yQD53E5 qB/WU1yu6y/q+3pk9hmIMBHuu3RAvS58X03L65m121kRJwC2v+zaw++cNekdBZMZYXV48i TtvVKVj85Zg0rRPW2boWmPhuGCg1lEPQcqMAz+TV5U2gzeExQInl7FK1T9HQv05EE4xaH2 sz2RNxVkjiCXiJqfNVEkvDMuwPowJhklRuTB+dhrSun8OUdsdTLMIwzDSGFzMg== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=key1; d=yhetil.org; t=1642103653; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=kniSbTH/unMg5PW3GPPKLN3DX0Dmswjv4v4NDnEQ9I1gkmU+NTpFYKzwOjJEXCEvm7nTBQ UBBCZxvqPE0+nBhd/+BzSqZRt45EDb/a4KQ+8MfblhyX6Oxgn29/4o8szyfAXAC5Mij/Tb j9zygoY9FzKWvW0xCAxBSr+zpegsg13ewszm4SKksUTAIuI0TwvbeSgXHcmI/muFFmZBH8 XH2hqd28h4DJSdVp9nyAfWj0HtSVlKvT4KzDaCPcFaFl59RRtGYuNwMm02BYla2XkULK+X WnC1MzaBrIZTWz6AfCq/972CsunQnZOjV0+1nTaYwxq9SQYdPtbeyTBEBAeCsA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=tutanota.com header.s=s1 header.b=KwknAsw1; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -3.62 Authentication-Results: aspmx1.migadu.com; dkim=fail ("headers rsa verify failed") header.d=tutanota.com header.s=s1 header.b=KwknAsw1; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gnu.org; spf=pass (aspmx1.migadu.com: domain of "emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" designates 209.51.188.17 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom="emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org" X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 623E330AFB X-Spam-Score: -3.62 X-Migadu-Scanner: scn1.migadu.com X-TUID: MenzqYo7Labw Jan 14, 2022, 07:19 by maciaschain@posteo.net: > John Kitchin writes: > >> It depends on what you mean. I can't think of a standard markup for >> de-emphasis. You could imply it with color perhaps, e.g. some shade of >> grey, or size by making it smaller. At least for LaTex/HTML, both of >> those can be done. You would either need to use something like a >> macro, or a link for something like that I think. >> > > The problem is that the concept of nested emphasis only works in LaTeX. > I agree that a macro would be a good solution, putting the argument in > 'normal' text. An approximation could be: > > #+begin_src emacs-lisp > (defun macro-no-emph (arg) > (let* ((backend org-export-current-backend)) > (cond ((eq org-export-current-backend 'latex) > (concat "@@latex:{\\normalfont @@" arg "@@latex:}@@")) > ((eq org-export-current-backend 'html) > (concat "@@html:@@" arg "@@html:@@")) > ((eq org-export-current-backend 'odt) > ;; a character style `normal' must be definded for odt > (concat "@@odt:@@" arg "@@odt:@@"))))) > > (setq org-export-global-macros > '(("noemph" . "(eval (mi-macro-emph $1))"))) > #+end_src > > /foo {{{noemph(bar)}}} baz/ > I find not much need for nested non-emphasised within emphasized text. What I am looking for in playing down, but as compared to normal text.=C2= =A0=20 In summary, as there are characters to emphasize text over normal text, I am asking if there could be a some other characters that show the text in less conspicuous manner when compared to normal text.