* Default fold state of property drawers?
@ 2020-10-28 9:57 Gustav Wikström
2020-10-29 2:45 ` Kyle Meyer
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From: Gustav Wikström @ 2020-10-28 9:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Hi,
This may be a stupid question but I didn't find anything conclusive in the manual or online after a (albeit fairly quick) scan.
Is there currently a way to declare that property drawers (and the file level property drawer in particular) should be hidden when opening a new Org file, no matter the startup keyword setting? I.e is it possible to control the open/closed state of the property drawer separate from the outline folding?
Thanks and best regards
Gustav
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* Re: Default fold state of property drawers?
2020-10-28 9:57 Default fold state of property drawers? Gustav Wikström
@ 2020-10-29 2:45 ` Kyle Meyer
2020-10-29 12:25 ` Gustav Wikström
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From: Kyle Meyer @ 2020-10-29 2:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Gustav Wikström; +Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Gustav Wikström writes:
> Hi,
>
> This may be a stupid question but I didn't find anything conclusive in
> the manual or online after a (albeit fairly quick) scan.
>
> Is there currently a way to declare that property drawers (and the
> file level property drawer in particular) should be hidden when
> opening a new Org file, no matter the startup keyword setting? I.e is
> it possible to control the open/closed state of the property drawer
> separate from the outline folding?
I may be missing something too, but I'm not aware of a way to do this
that's distinct from setting org-startup-folded and friends. But
doesn't org-startup-folded's showall/showeverything distinction cover
your usecase?
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* Re: Default fold state of property drawers?
2020-10-29 2:45 ` Kyle Meyer
@ 2020-10-29 12:25 ` Gustav Wikström
2020-11-01 18:21 ` Kyle Meyer
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From: Gustav Wikström @ 2020-10-29 12:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Kyle Meyer; +Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Hmm, maybe.. Didn't consider that one.
But maybe my issue rather lies in how the visibility toggling with S-TAB functions. The file property drawer is open in OVERVIEW and CONTENT but hidden in SHOW ALL. My intuition says that the file-property drawer should be closed for all toggle-states. Thoughts?
/Gustav
________________________________________
From: Kyle Meyer <kyle@kyleam.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2020 03:45
To: Gustav Wikström
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Default fold state of property drawers?
Gustav Wikström writes:
> Hi,
>
> This may be a stupid question but I didn't find anything conclusive in
> the manual or online after a (albeit fairly quick) scan.
>
> Is there currently a way to declare that property drawers (and the
> file level property drawer in particular) should be hidden when
> opening a new Org file, no matter the startup keyword setting? I.e is
> it possible to control the open/closed state of the property drawer
> separate from the outline folding?
I may be missing something too, but I'm not aware of a way to do this
that's distinct from setting org-startup-folded and friends. But
doesn't org-startup-folded's showall/showeverything distinction cover
your usecase?
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* Re: Default fold state of property drawers?
2020-10-29 12:25 ` Gustav Wikström
@ 2020-11-01 18:21 ` Kyle Meyer
2020-11-04 23:55 ` Gustav Wikström
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From: Kyle Meyer @ 2020-11-01 18:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Gustav Wikström; +Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Gustav Wikström writes:
> But maybe my issue rather lies in how the visibility toggling with
> S-TAB functions. The file property drawer is open in OVERVIEW and
> CONTENT but hidden in SHOW ALL. My intuition says that the
> file-property drawer should be closed for all toggle-states. Thoughts?
I agree. While I've never used file-level property drawers, my
expectation would be for them to behave in the same way a heading's
would.
FWIW when you introduced file-level property drawers in 1bdff9f73 (Org
document property-drawers, 2019-05-26), it looks like cycling wasn't
considered and S-TAB would just ignore these drawers, preserving their
current state.
The cycling behavior you described above appears to come with 1aa095ccf
(Fix drawer invisibility, 2020-06-06). I think that was in response to
<https://orgmode.org/list/87a71thwp2.fsf@fastmail.fm/T/#u>. While I
haven't taken a close look, my guess is that the effect on file-level
property drawers was unintended, and that improvements here would be
welcomed.
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* Re: Default fold state of property drawers?
2020-11-01 18:21 ` Kyle Meyer
@ 2020-11-04 23:55 ` Gustav Wikström
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From: Gustav Wikström @ 2020-11-04 23:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Kyle Meyer; +Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Hi Kyle,
And thanks for a second pair of eyes on this!
I've pushed a patch to the repo that should fix it.
--- commit 8d7a9b4ce
Hide drawers before first headline properly when cycling visibility
* lisp/org.el (org--hide-drawers): New internal function consolidating
logic from two places currently.
(org-cycle-hide-drawers): Hide drawers before first headline at
appropriate times. Refactor to use new internal function
`org--hide-drawers'.
(org-hide-drawer-all): Refactor to use new internal function
`org--hide-drawers'.
Kind regards
Gustav
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From: Kyle Meyer <kyle@kyleam.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 1, 2020 19:21
To: Gustav Wikström
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Default fold state of property drawers?
Gustav Wikström writes:
> But maybe my issue rather lies in how the visibility toggling with
> S-TAB functions. The file property drawer is open in OVERVIEW and
> CONTENT but hidden in SHOW ALL. My intuition says that the
> file-property drawer should be closed for all toggle-states. Thoughts?
I agree. While I've never used file-level property drawers, my
expectation would be for them to behave in the same way a heading's
would.
FWIW when you introduced file-level property drawers in 1bdff9f73 (Org
document property-drawers, 2019-05-26), it looks like cycling wasn't
considered and S-TAB would just ignore these drawers, preserving their
current state.
The cycling behavior you described above appears to come with 1aa095ccf
(Fix drawer invisibility, 2020-06-06). I think that was in response to
<https://orgmode.org/list/87a71thwp2.fsf@fastmail.fm/T/#u>. While I
haven't taken a close look, my guess is that the effect on file-level
property drawers was unintended, and that improvements here would be
welcomed.
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