From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "Thomas S. Dye" Subject: Re: A LaTeX class for Org-mode export Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 09:25:33 -1000 Message-ID: References: <382F36E0-825B-4EC0-A44A-CFEA708157D4@gmail.com> <77AA8FA8-FC83-47B0-81DC-E6D83EA7A0D5@tsdye.com> <1968C361-BB7A-4900-AA80-890934E03EE1@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=46662 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1P7YrX-0000P9-7L for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2010 15:25:44 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P7YrV-0001OC-Hf for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2010 15:25:43 -0400 Received: from oproxy2-pub.bluehost.com ([67.222.39.60]:39074) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1P7YrV-0001O2-B2 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Oct 2010 15:25:41 -0400 In-Reply-To: <1968C361-BB7A-4900-AA80-890934E03EE1@gmail.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Carsten Dominik Cc: emacs-orgmode Mailinglist Aloha Carsten, Much appreciated. I hope the idea of custom LaTeX classes for Org- mode export proves useful to the community. I have the patch on my list of things to do. I don't work at the speeds you folks attain so the patch will probably seem slow in coming. All the best, Tom On Oct 16, 2010, at 7:58 PM, Carsten Dominik wrote: > Hi Tom, > > On Oct 16, 2010, at 7:08 PM, Thomas S. Dye wrote: > >> Aloha Carsten, >> >> Thanks for your kind words. I'm having fun with org-article.cls >> and am happy to have Org support in the ways that you mention. > > Great. Would you like to make me a patch which does all this? > If you want, you can also create a new directory in contrib. > You can also have write permission for the git repo in order > to install updates for this. > >> >> Right now I think the class's main contribution is that it eases >> configuration of LaTeX export. >> >> For the future (perhaps distant), I'm hoping org-article.cls will >> make the case that Org should identify other semantic elements in >> LaTeX export, leaving the details of their representation to the >> LaTeX class. >> >> For example: >> >> paths: Paths are frequently quite long and when they don't include >> spaces LaTeX can have a difficult time breaking them at the end of >> a line. There is a LaTeX package, url.sty, that handles this. I >> believe that the hyperref package loads url.sty for this >> functionality, so it is available to the LaTeX exporter with the >> current defaults. If paths were identified in the export, >> e.g., \org-path{/long/path/to/my/file/deep/in/the/directory/tree}, >> then the LaTeX class could typeset this with either the \url{} >> command (if hyperref wasn't being used), with \nolinkurl{} (if >> hyperref was being used), or some other way appropriate to the class. >> >> lists: In addition to compact lists (I agree with you that they are >> an improvement over the standard LaTeX lists), it should be >> possible to typeset lists inside paragraphs. I'm not certain how >> this might be handled in Org-mode, perhaps an #+property or other >> entity that could be set on a list-specific basis. The LaTeX >> paralist package that is responsible for the compact lists does a >> good job typesetting lists in paragraphs, as well. >> >> #+results: I'm integrating Eric Fraga's GANTT chart code, which >> generates the LaTeX code to create a high quality graphic using an >> Org-mode table as input. Currently, the #+results: of Eric's code >> aren't exported unless I add a blank line between the #+results: >> and #+BEGIN_LaTeX lines. If, instead, the results block were >> exported inside a LaTeX environment, say \begin{org-results} >> \end{org-results}, then org-article.cls (or any other LaTeX class) >> could define an environment to typeset the results appropriately. >> With the blank line inserted, LaTeX export yields a listing of the >> LaTeX code, which is all well and good, but it doesn't get set off >> *as a result*, which might be useful to distinguish it from regular >> source code blocks in the Org-mode file. >> >> I'm not advocating for any specific changes here. I'm just trying >> to indicate a possibly useful development path for Org-mode LaTeX >> export in tandem with custom LaTeX classes. > > I will be very interested to see what else you come up with. > > Cheers > > - Carsten > >> >> All the best, >> Tom >> >> >> On Oct 15, 2010, at 7:57 PM, Carsten Dominik wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Thomas, >>> >>> Dan just made me look again at this thread, which I had not yet >>> studied closely. >>> >>> I think you have created something very useful indeed. I love >>> the compact lists, and I am sure there is a lot more I would use. >>> So I am wondering: What can Org do to support and integrate this >>> class? I can think of a couple of things: >>> >>> - distribute it in contrib >>> - advertise it in the manual >>> - have it as one of the default classes in org-export-latex-classes >>> >>> But maybe you have other ideas? >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> - Carsten >>> >>> >>> On Sep 14, 2010, at 10:37 PM, Thomas S. Dye wrote: >>> >>>> Aloha all, >>>> >>>> I'd like to draw your attention to a LaTeX class that I put >>>> together in response to posts here about configuring the output >>>> of the LaTeX exporter. The class supports all of the Org-mode >>>> LaTeX default packages. It supports the standard LaTeX article >>>> class and the KOMA-script scrartcl class and provides several >>>> choices of fonts. In addition, it includes facilities to apply >>>> microtypographic adjustments to suitable fonts, set the line >>>> spacing of the document to double space, set lists more compactly >>>> than the standard LaTeX article.cls, and typeset source code >>>> listings, optionally with color. >>>> >>>> The documentation that should appear shortly in the Babel/Uses >>>> section of Worg includes two examples that illustrate use of the >>>> class. The first uses the standard LaTeX article class and >>>> Times, Helvetica, and Courier fonts with a 12 point base size to >>>> typeset the literate program on 8.5 x 11 in. paper, with colored >>>> source code listings and microtypographic adjustments. >>>> >>>>> #+LaTeX_CLASS: org-article-subsubsection >>>>> #+LaTeX_CLASS_OPTIONS: [article,letterpaper,times, >>>>> 12pt,listings,color,microtype] >>>> >>>> The second uses the KOMA-script scrartcl class and Utopia, Bera, >>>> and Inconsolata fonts with a 10 point base size to typeset the >>>> literate program on 5.8 x 8.3 in. paper in landscape mode, also >>>> with colored source code listings and microtypographic >>>> adjustments. In addition, lists are set tighter than with the >>>> standard LaTeX article class. >>>> >>>>> #+LaTeX_CLASS: org-article-subsubsection >>>>> #+LaTeX_CLASS_OPTIONS: [koma,a5paper,landscape,utopia, >>>>> 10pt,listings,color,microtype,paralist] >>>> >>>> The project is hosted at GitHub: >>>> http://github.com/tsdye/org-article >>>> >>>> All the best, >>>> Tom >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >>>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >>>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >>>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >>> >> >