Re: Org Entities (was: Add \EUR to `org-html-entities')

From: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
To: Ulf Stegemann <ulf-news@zeitform.de>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Org Entities (was: Add \EUR to `org-html-entities')
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 13:49:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DE8705F1-C752-412B-AB82-74A08CF3B6A4@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <zf.upnmy1ij7jh.fsf@zeitform.de>

Hi Ulf,

feel free to send me a modified version of the definitions of
org-html-entities which contains an ASCII element as the third
element of a list.

I would then use this element for ASCII export.

- Carsten

On Dec 17, 2009, at 10:04 AM, Ulf Stegemann wrote:

> Hi Carsten,
>
> Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have added your symbols.
>
> thanks, works great.
>
> I was wondering if there's a more general problem lurking behind this
> (thus the change of subject): the problem of encoding entities in org
> for various export formats, namely HTML, LaTeX, plain ASCII text (and
> maybe plain unicode text).
>
> As an example, let's assume we have an org file that should eventually
> be available as HTML, PDF and plain text. Let's assume further, that  
> for
> whatever reasons (e.g. ugly double quotes in the needed font) the
> document should use French quoting. Ideally
> `\SomeMagicOrgEncoding{}Quote\AnotherMagicOrgEncoding{}' in the org  
> file
> would export to
>
>  HTML       ->         &laquo;Quote&raquo;
>  LaTeX      ->         \flqq{}Quote\frqq{}
>  ASCII      ->         "Quote"
> (Unicode    ->         «Quote»)
>
> Resorting to `org-html-entities' we could use
>
> --8<--------------------------snip-------------------------->8---
>
> #+LATEX_HEADER: \newcommand{\laquo}{\flqq} \newcommand{\raquo}{\frqq}
>
> [...]
>
> \laquo{}Quote\raquo{}
>
> --8<--------------------------snap-------------------------->8---
>
> to get the HTML and LaTeX output right but this leaves us with
> `\laquo{}' in ASCII export and is generally a rather cumbersome
> approach.
>
> Maybe there's a simpler solution to address this but I haven't come
> across it, yet (Note that `Use unicode!' isn't an option sometimes.).
>
> Quoting is just one example that strikes my quite often, but the same
> applies for all sorts of special characters; think of arrows, accented
> characters etc.
>
> This is certainly not a very pressing issue but it might be worth
> thinking about how to handle this. What do you think?
>
> Ulf
>
>
>
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- Carsten