From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Carsten Dominik Subject: Re: Re: Any iPhone devellopers here Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 23:13:01 +0200 Message-ID: References: <83D9C37A-9163-40EB-BC77-47AE1903746E@uva.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KoPIK-0000TQ-Hn for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:13:08 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KoPIJ-0000S4-Ct for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:13:07 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=58763 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KoPIJ-0000Ro-3U for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:13:07 -0400 Received: from ey-out-1920.google.com ([74.125.78.146]:47852) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KoPII-0001Nv-PC for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:13:07 -0400 Received: by ey-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 4so296683eyg.24 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:13:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Jeff Mickey Cc: Peter Jones , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Hi Peter, Jeff, thanks for your reactions. The idea I am having in mind actually goes back to an old idea by Tim O'Callaghan which he sent to emacs-orgmode on April 25, 2006 - oh my, is this really more than 2 year ago???? Here is the link to Tims message: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/139/focus=165 The basic idea is to *give up* on the idea of a mobile version of Org and to do something different: 1. Get entire Org-files or sections of it onto a mobile device. This could be an Org file, or simply an exported agenda list. For example, you could automate creation of a number of useful on-the-road agenda views, and make sure that these are automatically updated on your phone. 2. On the mobile device, use whatever means available to mark entries that you have acted upon in some way. Tim actually had involved involved plans to prepend certain letters to headlines, to trigger specific actions like switching to a specific TODO state etc. 3. Once synched back to your desktop computer, Emacs would read these files and do the required changes in the original Org files. Tim and I had a few iterations about this, I even wrote a prototype. But in the end the project died, I believe mainly because there was no good way to make sure that Emacs would be able to identify and find the correct entries. Tim's proposal has recently crept back into my mind, with two modifications: 1. We do now have a system to assign unique IDs to entries, so the cross-identification could be made to work. 2. I believe that Tim's idea to actually assign actions is too complex and will be hard to implement in a closed way that would not constantly beg for extension. Anyway, what if all we do it to record the IDs of entries that we want to have affected. To on the device you would only click/tab an entry and in this way mark it for further attention. And then later back at our Desktop/Laptop computer, Org will use the list of collected IDs to create an agenda view will all entries which were marked while on the go. Then you could go through this list, remember and record the actions and enter corresponding notes with the better input devices you have available in that environment. I am not sure if this is a good idea, maybe I am just rambling, or maybe I should get myself and N810, bite the bullet and cough up the 300 Eros or so. But as a poor-men's solution tha could be made to work on a large number of devices, maybe something like the setup described above would do the trick? As said, I am not sure if this is going anywhere, but comments are, as always, welcome. - Carsten