On Apr 13, 2008, = at 8:48 PM, T. V. Raman wrote:

two = suggestions:

1) accept paths like "./foo.html" as local = links.

This is now = allowed.

2) Augment C-c C-l = to react to file: by providing filename
completion relative to the = working directory.

This is hard = and therefore not yet implemented. Use `C-u C-c C-l' to insert a = file link with completion.

- = Carsten

The= emacs binding to the w3m browser does this if you type file: in the = minibuffer
when prompted for a URL.

"Carsten" =3D=3D Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl> = writes:
   Carsten> Hmmmm, this is *such* a good idea, that I = will
   Carsten> implement this retroactively into = all versions since
   Carsten> ... 2.0 or so? = Abracadabra! Done.
   Carsten>
=    Carsten> In fact, it has been working just so for a = very long
   Carsten> time.
=    Carsten>
   Carsten> file:foo.html = -> href=3D"foo.html" file:foo.org ->
   Carsten> = href=3D"foo.html"
   Carsten>
=    Carsten> The second line assumes that the org file = foo.org
   Carsten> will also be converted to an html = file in the
   Carsten> publishing process....
=    Carsten>
   Carsten> Also, I was = mistaken earlier:
   Carsten>
=    Carsten> http:foo.html becomes href=3D"http:foo.html" = and not
   Carsten> href=3D"foo.html"
=    Carsten>
   Carsten> so this = actually cannot be used for a local link.
   Carsten> =
   Carsten> So what remains from this exchange? = Should we
   Carsten> accept links that look = like absolute file names
   Carsten> (including = ./foo.html) as equivalent to
   Carsten> = file:./foo.html ?
   Carsten>
=    Carsten> - Carsten
   Carsten>
=    Carsten> On Apr 13, 2008, at 6:25 PM, T. V. Raman = wrote:
   Carsten>

I = think writing http:foo.html is a bad idea because typing = that
string in other contexts is sort of meaningless as a = URL.
Until now, everything one types in org-mode sort of = has
meaning elsewhere. If you want it to look like a url = in
this case too then I'd suggest file:foo.html -- rther = than
http:file.html.

I did not suggest that earlier = because it's more chars to
type, but that's not a huge = concern since emacs does the
typing, and we could always = augment c-c c-l to enable
authoring of relative links with = file completion.

so file:a/b/c.html would become = href=3D"a/b/c.html" in the
generated = html.

"Carsten" =3D=3D Carsten Dominik <dominik@science.uva.nl>
=
writes:
   Carsten> On = Apr 13, 2008, at 5:33 PM, T. V. Raman wrote:
=    Carsten>
I've = not tried http:foo.html -- but I suggest doing = that
to author a relative URL is a = bad idea.
=    Carsten>
   Carsten> Can you = explain why you think that this is a bad
   Carsten> = idea? Educate me! What is wrong with writing
=    Carsten> http:foo.html ??????
=    Carsten>
   Carsten> - Carsten
=    Carsten>

I tried ./foo.html and that = didn't work either. One = compromise
would be to get ./foo.html to = link to a relative = url,
while foo.html continues to link = to a local = anchor

"Carsten" =3D=3D Carsten = Dominik
<dominik@science.uva.nl> = writes:
=    Carsten> On Apr 13, 2008, at 6:49 AM, T. V. Raman = wrote:
   Carsten>
Hi,
<= /blockquote>

org-export turns links of the form [[foo][link = to
relative url = foo]]
=

ends = up creating links of the form = <a
=
href=3D"#foo">...</a>

this = means that it becomes impossible to = write
=
hyperlinks that are relative = URLs.
=
   Carsten>
   Carsten> = Hi Raman,
   Carsten>
   Carsten> = the url goes into the first pair of square brackets,
=    Carsten> the description into the second. If you = put
   Carsten> something into the first bracket pair = that does not
   Carsten> look lie a url, it will be = treated as an internal
   Carsten> link.
=    Carsten>
   Carsten> Have you = tried to use something like
   Carsten>
=    Carsten> [[http:foo.html][link to relative url]]
=    Carsten>
   Carsten> ?
=    Carsten>
   Carsten> - = Carsten

-- =
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= --Apple-Mail-1--240917213-- --===============1714439973== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode --===============1714439973==-- From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Paul R Subject: Re: export to html and relative links: Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 10:36:29 +0200 Message-ID: <877icfgrg2.fsf@gmail.com> References: <18433.37101.453170.649918@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <18434.10211.460576.220006@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <18434.13307.199469.747272@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <83DA18C3-10D2-4286-95BE-8E81EA1D0652@science.uva.nl> <18434.21887.554746.137185@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <8D453617-E574-4032-B7B4-B421D34E6163@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KB410-0002fD-IW for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 04:36:38 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KB40y-0002dH-NV for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 04:36:38 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=53939 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KB40y-0002d0-FR for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 04:36:36 -0400 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.159]:43460) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KB40x-0006Px-Vn for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 04:36:36 -0400 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so1145461fgb.30 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 01:36:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8D453617-E574-4032-B7B4-B421D34E6163@gmail.com> (Carsten Dominik's message of "Tue\, 24 Jun 2008 08\:38\:03 +0200") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Carsten Dominik Cc: raman@users.sf.net, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Carsten Dominik writes: > 2) Augment C-c C-l to react to file: by providing filename > completion relative to the working directory. > > This is hard and therefore not yet implemented. Use `C-u C-c C-l' to insert a file link with > completion. Drop it if I'm off-topic, but isn't it what (file-relative-name path) does ? -- Paul From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Carsten Dominik Subject: Re: Re: export to html and relative links: Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 11:39:40 +0200 Message-ID: <54569F62-AB4A-4229-A5A7-06EB4AFF3256@gmail.com> References: <18433.37101.453170.649918@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <18434.10211.460576.220006@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <18434.13307.199469.747272@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <83DA18C3-10D2-4286-95BE-8E81EA1D0652@science.uva.nl> <18434.21887.554746.137185@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <8D453617-E574-4032-B7B4-B421D34E6163@gmail.com> <877icfgrg2.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v924) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KB50C-0005sG-U3 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 05:39:53 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KB50A-0005rL-AN for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 05:39:51 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=39773 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KB509-0005r0-6c for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 05:39:49 -0400 Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com ([66.249.92.168]:21603) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KB506-0003gk-9P for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 05:39:46 -0400 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id l31so589756ugc.48 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 02:39:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <877icfgrg2.fsf@gmail.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Paul R Cc: raman@users.sf.net, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org On Jun 24, 2008, at 10:36 AM, Paul R wrote: > Carsten Dominik writes: > > >> 2) Augment C-c C-l to react to file: by providing filename >> completion relative to the working directory. >> >> This is hard and therefore not yet implemented. Use `C-u C-c C-l' >> to insert a file link with >> completion. > > Drop it if I'm off-topic, but isn't it what (file-relative-name path) > does ? It is hard because I would have to write a special completion function which sees the "file:" types and the switches its completion tactics. - Carsten From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Paul R Subject: Re: Re: export to html and relative links: Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 11:45:20 +0200 Message-ID: <873an3go9b.fsf@gmail.com> References: <18433.37101.453170.649918@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <18434.10211.460576.220006@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <18434.13307.199469.747272@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <83DA18C3-10D2-4286-95BE-8E81EA1D0652@science.uva.nl> <18434.21887.554746.137185@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <8D453617-E574-4032-B7B4-B421D34E6163@gmail.com> <877icfgrg2.fsf@gmail.com> <54569F62-AB4A-4229-A5A7-06EB4AFF3256@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KB55c-0008Lr-MC for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 05:45:28 -0400 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KB55Y-0008Il-JV for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 05:45:26 -0400 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=57523 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KB55W-0008Hh-Mq for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 05:45:23 -0400 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com ([72.14.220.153]:58613) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KB55W-00055v-3h for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 05:45:22 -0400 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so1154157fgb.30 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 2008 02:45:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <54569F62-AB4A-4229-A5A7-06EB4AFF3256@gmail.com> (Carsten Dominik's message of "Tue\, 24 Jun 2008 11\:39\:40 +0200") List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Carsten Dominik Cc: raman@users.sf.net, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org Carsten Dominik writes: >> Drop it if I'm off-topic, but isn't it what (file-relative-name path) >> does ? > > It is hard because I would have to write a special completion function > which sees the "file:" types and the switches its completion tactics. So I was right ! Right to beleive I was off topic ;-) -- Paul