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From: Torsten Wagner <torsten.wagner@gmail.com>
To: R.M.Krug@gmail.com
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us>
Subject: Re: Compose emails in ogr, but send them via thunderbird?
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2012 11:05:45 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAPaq-gMUJVwc9+ArKVaUAxreRJZkv35EUjBRLjFGzCdRtsndjg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4F7AFC5A.2020509@gmail.com>

Hi Rainer,

Hmm interstingly I working on exact the same task.... I want to get
rid of Thunderbird because its troubling me to much, but I can't find
an easy drop-in replacement.
Recently, I got notmuch running after giving up on gnus for the third
or fourth time, because I never found enough time to come into it.
Unfortunately, I find the notmuch thread buffers rather confusing and
would be very happy if a little org-mode magic would move into it.

Nevertheless notmuch allows you to write emails too. What you have to
do is to set-up the smtp server to sent your mails. That can be either
a pointer to an existing smtp server (like gmail) or a own server. A
own server might be nice but requires some fiddling and hence I
decided to use msmtp [1].
It requires only a very small config file with the credentials and
settings for each smtp (email) account. Mostly what you are used to
type into thunderbird too.
In my emacs init files I added

;; notmuch and smtp settings

(require 'notmuch)
(setq message-send-mail-function 'message-send-mail-with-sendmail)
;; we substitute sendmail with msmtp
(setq sendmail-program "/usr/bin/msmtp")
;;need to tell msmtp which account we're using
(setq message-sendmail-extra-arguments '("-a" "gmail"))
;; integrate with org-mode
(require 'org-notmuch)
(require 'notmuch-address)
(setq notmuch-address-command "/home/torsten/mails/get_address.sh")

get_address.sh is a little shell script which enables to access the
googlemail contact list and you will get auto completion.

goobook query "$*" | sed 's/\(.*\)\t\(.*\)\t.*/\2 \<\1\>/' | sed '/^$/d'

details about this can be found on the notmuch website.

Being in a notmuch buffer pressing 'm' opens a new buffer with a empty
template in Message mode
Fill it and C-c C-C will send the mail out.
It should appear in notmuch later and if you did your
filtering/tagging right you can file it under sent.
From there it should be pretty easy to link to an org-mode file.

Again I would like to see notmuch using more org-mode magic to get a
more clean representation of mails and esp. threads.
Some more hooks like automatic linking to notmuch emails in org-mode
buffers and creating of emails directly from org-mode buffers would be
nice and I guess its rather easy to implement. (E.g., a single command
to create a new mail and generating a org-mode link to that email in
notmuch, at the current position in a org-mode buffer would be very

Hope that helps

[1] http://msmtp.sourceforge.net/

On 3 April 2012 22:34, Rainer M Krug <r.m.krug@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On 03/04/12 11:36, Rasmus wrote:
>> Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us> writes:
>>> ¹  http://globs.org/articles.php?pg=2&lng=en
>> You might also be able to work something out with Keysnail, which, at least in Fx, can also
>> call external editors (Emacs, mostly)
> Also interesting - nice.
> Cheers,
> Rainer
>> https://github.com/mooz/keysnail/wiki
>> –Rasmus
> - --
> Rainer M. Krug, PhD (Conservation Ecology, SUN), MSc (Conservation Biology, UCT), Dipl. Phys.
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  reply	other threads:[~2012-04-04  2:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-03  8:09 Compose emails in ogr, but send them via thunderbird? Rainer M Krug
2012-04-03  9:29 ` Rasmus
2012-04-03  9:36   ` Rasmus
2012-04-03 13:34     ` Rainer M Krug
2012-04-04  2:05       ` Torsten Wagner [this message]
2012-04-05  9:33         ` Rainer M Krug
2012-04-05 14:42           ` Martin Pohlack
2012-04-03 13:31   ` Rainer M Krug

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