From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Joseph Buchignani Subject: Re: different hoisting in two panes Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 03:10:40 +0800 Message-ID: References: <24066.1317048824@alphaville.dokosmarshall.org> <4e8217b3.04ac640a.449a.ffffc11a@mx.google.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175cda1267eb8504adf10a62 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:54772) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R8d3s-000563-7Z for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:11:25 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R8d3q-0001Do-Qk for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:11:24 -0400 Received: from mail-bw0-f41.google.com ([209.85.214.41]:61891) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R8d3q-0001DQ-Ew for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:11:22 -0400 Received: by bkbzs2 with SMTP id zs2so8398293bkb.0 for ; Tue, 27 Sep 2011 12:11:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4e8217b3.04ac640a.449a.ffffc11a@mx.google.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Darlan Cavalcante Moreira Cc: org-mode mailing list --0015175cda1267eb8504adf10a62 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Ah, I see... that explains why it always narrows focus when I execute C-x C-c b What you described is an advanced use case which while interesting I'm not sure I fully understand. Whereas simply editing an outline in the style of most two-pane outliners is more of a basic function usable by everyone who needs to organize his thoughts. So more prominent featuring of this in the outlining section of the org-mode docs would be good... it really amplifies Org-Mode's power. On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 2:36 AM, Darlan Cavalcante Moreira < darcamo@gmail.com> wrote: > > The clone-indirect-buffer function is from Emacs and Org-mode created a > specialized function, org-tree-to-indirect-buffer, that just makes creating > an indirect buffer narrowed to a subtree easier. > > Indirect buffers may be useful for much more then just visibility > cycling. You can use a different major mode in each buffer, narrow to > different regions, etc.. If you are, for instance, inserting an org-mode > table in a latex document (see [1]) you might want to clone the buffer, > change one of them to org-mode and narrow to the table. Then you can edit > the table normally and alternate with editing the latex document as you > want. > > [1] - http://orgmode.org/manual/A-LaTeX-example.html > > -- > Darlan > > > > At Tue, 27 Sep 2011 19:55:19 +0800, > Joseph Buchignani wrote: > > > > [1 ] > > Awesome, thanks. > > > > This makes Org-Mode truly a two pane outliner. Actually it's three "pane" > I > > guess, since it includes metadata. Yeah... 3 pane, the agenda view would > be > > a pane. > > > > I would suggest adding this command to the documentation for Org-Mode > under > > the outlining section somewhere. I've been using Emacs for years as a > > non-techie and never came across it. For writers it's only really useful > for > > visibility cycling of outlines, so they're not likely to come across it > > elsewhere. > > > > On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:25 PM, suvayu ali < > fatkasuvayu+linux@gmail.com>wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Nick Dokos > wrote: > > > > Sure you can - check out "Indirect buffers" in the Emacs manual. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > C-c C-x b > > > > > > -- > > > Suvayu > > > > > > Open source is the future. It sets us free. > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Ignore the following. It is a nonsense sentence that disables Google ads > > from displaying next to my emails by triggering sensitive keywords. > > > > I enjoy the massacre of ads. This sentence will slaughter ads without a > > messy bloodbath. > > [2 ] > > > -- Ignore the following. It is a nonsense sentence that disables Google ads from displaying next to my emails by triggering sensitive keywords. I enjoy the massacre of ads. This sentence will slaughter ads without a messy bloodbath. --0015175cda1267eb8504adf10a62 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ah, I see... that explains why it always narrows focus when I execute C-x C= -c b

What you described is an advanced use case which wh= ile interesting I'm not sure I fully understand. Whereas simply editing= an outline in the style of most two-pane outliners is more of a basic func= tion usable by everyone who needs to organize his thoughts. So more promine= nt featuring of this in the outlining section of the org-mode docs would be= good... it really amplifies Org-Mode's power.=A0

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 2:36 AM, Darlan Cava= lcante Moreira <d= arcamo@gmail.com> wrote:

The clone-indirect-buffer function is from Emacs and Org-mode created a
specialized function, org-tree-to-indirect-buffer, that just makes creating=
an indirect buffer narrowed to a subtree easier.

Indirect buffers may be useful for much more then just visibility
cycling. You can use a different major mode in each buffer, narrow to
different regions, etc.. If you are, for instance, inserting an org-mode table in a latex document (see [1]) you might want to clone the buffer,
change one of them to org-mode and narrow to the table. Then you can edit the table normally and alternate with editing the latex document as you
want.

[1] - http://orgmode.org/manual/A-LaTeX-example.html

--
Darlan



At Tue, 27 Sep 2011 19:55:19 +0800,
Joseph Buchignani <joseph.buchignani@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> [1 =A0<text/plain; ISO-8859-1 (7bit)>]
> Awesome, thanks.
>
> This makes Org-Mode truly a two pane outliner. Actually it's three= "pane" I
> guess, since it includes metadata. Yeah... 3 pane, the agenda view wou= ld be
> a pane.
>
> I would suggest adding this command to the documentation for Org-Mode = under
> the outlining section somewhere. I've been using Emacs for years a= s a
> non-techie and never came across it. For writers it's only really = useful for
> visibility cycling of outlines, so they're not likely to come acro= ss it
> elsewhere.
>
> On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 11:25 PM, suvayu ali <fatkasuvayu+linux@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Nick Dokos <nicholas.dokos@hp.com> wrote:
> > > Sure you can - check out "Indirect buffers" in the= Emacs manual.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > C-c C-x b
> >
> > --
> > Suvayu
> >
> > Open source is the future. It sets us free.
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Ignore the following. It is a nonsense sentence that disables Google a= ds
> from displaying next to my emails by triggering sensitive keywords. >
> I enjoy the massacre of ads. This sentence will slaughter ads without = a
> messy bloodbath.
> [2 =A0<text/html; ISO-8859-1 (quoted-printable)>] >



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Ignore the f= ollowing. It is a nonsense sentence that disables Google ads from displayin= g next to my emails by triggering sensitive keywords.

I enjoy the m= assacre of ads. This sentence will slaughter ads without a messy bloodbath.=
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