From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Simonyi_Andr=C3=A1s?= Subject: Re: bibliographystyle in scimax Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2018 08:16:22 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87606d36x0.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52071) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1euCGj-0007dC-8j for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Mar 2018 02:16:46 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1euCGi-0006gA-5t for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Mar 2018 02:16:45 -0500 Received: from mail-ua0-x231.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400c:c08::231]:42940) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1euCGi-0006fg-0M for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Mar 2018 02:16:44 -0500 Received: by mail-ua0-x231.google.com with SMTP id b23so1618447uak.9 for ; Thu, 08 Mar 2018 23:16:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87606d36x0.fsf@gmail.com> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" To: Joseph Vidal-Rosset Cc: emacs-orgmode list Dear Joseph, I'm not familiar with scimax, but if it uses org-ref to handle citations then you might give a try to citeproc-orgref (https://github.com/andras-simonyi/citeproc-orgref) which is able to format BibTeX citations in html exports according to any CSL style (Chicago author-date is the default). best wishes, Andr=C3=A1s On 3 March 2018 at 09:22, Joseph Vidal-Rosset wrote: > Dear John, > > I am happy to tell you that your scimax > https://github.com/jkitchin/scimax is a wonderful tool for emacs, for > org-mode and for exporting in LaTeX with references. I advice strongly > its use. > > I am using Gnus and not mu4e to write emails and it works well now > thanks of the help of Eric Fraga. > > This email is just about a detail. I guess it would be possible in > theory to get the bibliography style that I want in email as well as > in any other exported document, but it is not the case for the html > export and therefore not for html email in Gnus. It is too bad, > because apalike for example is a good option that avoids Jan von > Plato=E2=80=99s reproach vonplato2017: > > A great disservice is being done to scholarship by the reference system > prevalent today that has running numbers, usually in square brackets, > for the items in the references. The defects of this system are twofold. > First, it is enormously disturbing for the reader to be constantly > checking the list of references to see what article or book is being > referred to. The reader=E2=80=99s memory is burdened with information tha= t > has no meaning elsewhere. Second, the awareness of who did what > and when is eroded little by little. If we read G=C3=B6del (1931) or Gent= zen > (1936), we know what that is, contrary to a plain [104] and [90], say, > and similarly with hundreds of other works. Such couplings of names > and years give us a timeline that is indispensable for an awareness of > the development of logic or any other part of science. The thoughtless > =E2=80=9Cbibtex=E2=80=9D square bracket numbering system of references is= destroying > such awareness and should therefore be universally abandoned. It has > just one, totally inessential advantage: that it saves some space. In a > standard article, that may be a few lines, and in a book, a page or two. > > So, do you think that it is possible to adopt the apalike bibliography > style in html document also? > > Best wishes, > > Jo. > > Bibliography > > [vonplato2017] Jan von Plato, The Great Formal Machinery Works: Theories = of > Deduction and Computation at the Origins of the Digital Age, Princeton > University Press (2017). > >