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* TMIO July Post: Introducing Citations
@ 2021-08-01 20:29 Timothy
  2021-08-02  7:08 ` tomas
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From: Timothy @ 2021-08-01 20:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: org-mode-email

Hi Everyone,

Just letting you know that on my blog TMIO (This Month In Org) I've just
published the July post. I've decided to focus entirely on citations
this time :)

Should this be of interest, here it is:
https://blog.tecosaur.com/tmio/2021-07-31-citations.html

Enjoy!

--
Timothy


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* Re: TMIO July Post: Introducing Citations
  2021-08-01 20:29 TMIO July Post: Introducing Citations Timothy
@ 2021-08-02  7:08 ` tomas
  2021-08-02  7:23 ` Juan Manuel Macías
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From: tomas @ 2021-08-02  7:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-orgmode

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On Mon, Aug 02, 2021 at 04:29:09AM +0800, Timothy wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
> 
> Just letting you know that on my blog TMIO (This Month In Org) I've just
> published the July post. I've decided to focus entirely on citations
> this time :)
> 
> Should this be of interest, here it is:
> https://blog.tecosaur.com/tmio/2021-07-31-citations.html

Wow. Thanks!

(Note that I'm not the target audience of this feature, but I'm
nevertheless enjoying thoroughly your blog post!)

Cheers
 - t

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* Re: TMIO July Post: Introducing Citations
  2021-08-01 20:29 TMIO July Post: Introducing Citations Timothy
  2021-08-02  7:08 ` tomas
@ 2021-08-02  7:23 ` Juan Manuel Macías
  2021-08-02  7:54 ` Colin Baxter
  2021-08-02 10:35 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
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From: Juan Manuel Macías @ 2021-08-02  7:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Timothy; +Cc: orgmode

Hi Timothy,

Timothy writes:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> Just letting you know that on my blog TMIO (This Month In Org) I've just
> published the July post. I've decided to focus entirely on citations
> this time :)
>
> Should this be of interest, here it is:
> https://blog.tecosaur.com/tmio/2021-07-31-citations.html

Thank you very much for this comprehensive and very useful post: the
best way to start my summer vacation! :-)

And many thanks to those who have developed this interesting and
promising new Org feature.

Best regards,

Juan Manuel 


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* Re: TMIO July Post: Introducing Citations
  2021-08-01 20:29 TMIO July Post: Introducing Citations Timothy
  2021-08-02  7:08 ` tomas
  2021-08-02  7:23 ` Juan Manuel Macías
@ 2021-08-02  7:54 ` Colin Baxter
  2021-08-02  7:59   ` Timothy
  2021-08-02 10:35 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
  3 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Colin Baxter @ 2021-08-02  7:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Timothy; +Cc: , org-mode-email

Hello Timothy,
>>>>> Timothy  <tecosaur@gmail.com> writes:

    > Hi Everyone, Just letting you know that on my blog TMIO (This
    > Month In Org) I've just published the July post. I've decided to
    > focus entirely on citations this time :)

    > Should this be of interest, here it is:
    > https://blog.tecosaur.com/tmio/2021-07-31-citations.html

Nice work. For me, however, I'm still at a loss, although I confess I've
not kept up to-date with the org citation developments.

1. I don't understand the relation between the new cite syntax and the old
org-mode [[ bib:key ]]. Perhaps there isn't one.

2. How is an =org-link-abbrev-alist= related to a global and/or local
#+bibliography:? Even if I remove reference to my =org-link-abbrev-alist=
the org-export (to pdf) still does not find a different local bibliography
file. (I have org-cite-global-bibliography set to nil.)

I think I need to read the manual!

Anyway, thanks to everyone for this new org citation.

Best wishes,

Colin.



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* Re: TMIO July Post: Introducing Citations
  2021-08-02  7:54 ` Colin Baxter
@ 2021-08-02  7:59   ` Timothy
  2021-08-02  8:14     ` Colin Baxter
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From: Timothy @ 2021-08-02  7:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Colin Baxter; +Cc: org-mode-email

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Hi Colin,

> Nice work. For me, however, I’m still at a loss, although I confess I’ve
> not kept up to-date with the org citation developments.
>
> 1. I don’t understand the relation between the new cite syntax and the old
> org-mode . Perhaps there isn’t one.
>
> 2. How is an `org-link-abbrev-alist' related to a global and/or local
> #+bibliography:? Even if I remove reference to my `org-link-abbrev-alist'
> the org-export (to pdf) still does not find a different local bibliography
> file. (I have org-cite-global-bibliography set to nil.)

I think the confusion you have lies in the similarity between the link syntax
and cite syntax — the new `[cite:@key]' citations are *not* links.
Hopefully that makes them a this a bit clearer :)

All the best,
Timothy

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* Re: TMIO July Post: Introducing Citations
  2021-08-02  7:59   ` Timothy
@ 2021-08-02  8:14     ` Colin Baxter
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From: Colin Baxter @ 2021-08-02  8:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Timothy; +Cc: , org-mode-email

>>>>> Timothy  <tecosaur@gmail.com> writes:

    > Hi Colin,
    >> Nice work. For me, however, I’m still at a loss, although I
    >> confess I’ve not kept up to-date with the org citation
    >> developments.
    >> 
    >> 1. I don’t understand the relation between the new cite syntax
    >> and the old org-mode . Perhaps there isn’t one.
    >> 
    >> 2. How is an `org-link-abbrev-alist' related to a global and/or
    >> local #+bibliography:? Even if I remove reference to my
    >> `org-link-abbrev-alist' the org-export (to pdf) still does not
    >> find a different local bibliography file. (I have
    >> org-cite-global-bibliography set to nil.)

    > I think the confusion you have lies in the similarity between the
    > link syntax and cite syntax — the new `[cite:@key]' citations are
    > *not* links.  Hopefully that makes them a this a bit clearer :)

Ah! Now that's helpful - thanks.


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* Re: TMIO July Post: Introducing Citations
  2021-08-01 20:29 TMIO July Post: Introducing Citations Timothy
                   ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2021-08-02  7:54 ` Colin Baxter
@ 2021-08-02 10:35 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
  2021-08-03 10:10   ` András Simonyi
  3 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Rudolf Adamkovič @ 2021-08-02 10:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Timothy, org-mode-email

Does anyone know when this might land in Emacs’ master branch?

R+

Timothy <tecosaur@gmail.com> writes:

> Hi Everyone, 
> 
> Just letting you know that on my blog TMIO (This Month In Org) 
> I've just published the July post. I've decided to focus 
> entirely on citations this time :) 
> 
> Should this be of interest, here it is: 
> https://blog.tecosaur.com/tmio/2021-07-31-citations.html 
> 
> Enjoy! 
> 
> -- Timothy 
> 

-- 
Logic is a science of the necessary laws of thought, without which 
no employment of the understanding and the reason takes place. -- 
Immanuel Kant, 1785  Rudolf Adamkovič <salutis@me.com> 
Studenohorská 25 84103 Bratislava Slovakia  [he/him]


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* Re: TMIO July Post: Introducing Citations
  2021-08-02 10:35 ` Rudolf Adamkovič
@ 2021-08-03 10:10   ` András Simonyi
  2021-08-03 10:23     ` Eric S Fraga
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From: András Simonyi @ 2021-08-03 10:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Rudolf Adamkovič; +Cc: org-mode-email, Timothy

Most of the functionality described in the piece is already in the
master branch.

best regards,
András

On Mon, 2 Aug 2021 at 12:36, Rudolf Adamkovič <salutis@me.com> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know when this might land in Emacs’ master branch?


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* Re: TMIO July Post: Introducing Citations
  2021-08-03 10:10   ` András Simonyi
@ 2021-08-03 10:23     ` Eric S Fraga
  2021-08-03 10:38       ` András Simonyi
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From: Eric S Fraga @ 2021-08-03 10:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: András Simonyi; +Cc: org-mode-email, Rudolf Adamkovič, Timothy

On Tuesday,  3 Aug 2021 at 12:10, András Simonyi wrote:
> Most of the functionality described in the piece is already in the
> master branch.

No, not quite.  These latest updates are in the master branch of org
mode but they have not yet been incorporate into the master branch of
Emacs itself. 

-- 
: Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50, Org release_9.4.6-607-g185706
: Latest paper written in org: https://arxiv.org/abs/2106.05096


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* Re: TMIO July Post: Introducing Citations
  2021-08-03 10:23     ` Eric S Fraga
@ 2021-08-03 10:38       ` András Simonyi
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From: András Simonyi @ 2021-08-03 10:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Org Mode List; +Cc: Rudolf Adamkovič, Timothy

Absolutely, thanks for the correction -- I meant Org's master, even
though the question was clearly about Emacs's.
best regards,
András

On Tue, 3 Aug 2021 at 12:23, Eric S Fraga <e.fraga@ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> On Tuesday,  3 Aug 2021 at 12:10, András Simonyi wrote:
> > Most of the functionality described in the piece is already in the
> > master branch.
>
> No, not quite.  These latest updates are in the master branch of org
> mode but they have not yet been incorporate into the master branch of
> Emacs itself.
>
> --
> : Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50, Org release_9.4.6-607-g185706
> : Latest paper written in org: https://arxiv.org/abs/2106.05096


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