From: "András Simonyi" <andras.simonyi@gmail.com>
To: "András Simonyi" <andras.simonyi@gmail.com>,
"emacs-orgmode list" <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] oc-csl: New custom option `org-cite-csl-sentence-case-bibtex-titles'
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2024 11:59:41 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOWRwxBgHgCqHpB4R+9BwOmR5iwiSZ6TjDzdp8f0Ywxp5C+jVQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e4264d65-0ff1-4813-bc76-eb1783b95e92@gmail.com>
Dear All,
(sorry for the late reply again)
On Fri, 21 Jun 2024 at 12:27, Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 19/06/2024 16:27, András Simonyi wrote:
> > Of course it could be checked whether
> > a CSL style contains explicit instructions about how to format titles
> > and skip sentence-case conversion of input for those but this
> > probably would not
> > solve the problems of users who do not want the conversion at all.
>
> Do you mean using title (original) case despite some style requites
> sentence case for English entries? I believed that fields should be
> surrounded with double braces {{...}} this case and the only issue is
> difference of original capitalization and result of conversion to
> sentence case and then back to title case.
Well, what they typically want is using the original title case
despite a style not containing any explicit instruction that the title
field should be in title-case, which, according to the latest. 1.02
CSL standard (https://docs.citationstyles.org/en/stable/specification.html),
implies that the field in question should be formatted in
sentence-case:
"it is generally preferable to store strings such as titles in
sentence case, and only use text-case if a style desires another case.
Sentence case conversion is deprecated and will be removed in a future version."
> My expectation is that to get consistent results across applications,
> they should share the same preference. However since your choice is
> conscious, I do not insist.
thanks, I agree in general, but in this particular case it seems to me
that, in practice, it'd be hard to introduce common settings across
applications, especially for org-ref and org-cite, both of which have
a number of CSL-related user options.
best wishes,
András
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-07-06 10:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-05-11 15:33 [PATCH] oc-csl: New custom option `org-cite-csl-sentence-case-bibtex-titles' András Simonyi
2024-05-11 17:26 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-05-14 9:58 ` András Simonyi
2024-05-17 13:34 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-17 11:39 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-18 15:52 ` András Simonyi
2024-06-19 9:27 ` András Simonyi
2024-06-19 14:36 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-20 5:56 ` András Simonyi
2024-06-21 10:27 ` Max Nikulin
2024-07-06 9:59 ` András Simonyi [this message]
2024-07-08 10:57 ` Max Nikulin
2024-07-08 12:56 ` András Simonyi
2024-07-08 15:18 ` András Simonyi
2024-07-12 10:58 ` Max Nikulin
2024-05-15 11:48 ` Max Nikulin
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