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Mon, 08 Jul 2024 08:18:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <87zfswtg3u.fsf@localhost> <87o7948sua.fsf@localhost> <87zfrjbxxn.fsf@localhost> <33f98dec-8fcf-47d9-b3ca-6a0180990d65@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: =?UTF-8?Q?Andr=C3=A1s_Simonyi?= Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2024 17:18:44 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH] oc-csl: New custom option `org-cite-csl-sentence-case-bibtex-titles' To: =?UTF-8?Q?Andr=C3=A1s_Simonyi?= , emacs-orgmode list Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::a35; envelope-from=andras.simonyi@gmail.com; helo=mail-vk1-xa35.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org X-Migadu-Country: US X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_IN X-Spam-Score: -9.30 X-Migadu-Queue-Id: 03D50754D0 X-Migadu-Scanner: mx10.migadu.com X-Migadu-Spam-Score: -9.30 X-TUID: fQI+4nKy3lUO A quick correction: instead of "BibLaTex title fields" I should have writte= n "BibTeX or biblatex title fields". best wishes, Andr=C3=A1s On Mon, 8 Jul 2024 at 14:56, Andr=C3=A1s Simonyi = wrote: > > On Mon, 8 Jul 2024 at 12:57, Max Nikulin wrote: > > On 06/07/2024 16:59, Andr=C3=A1s Simonyi wrote: > > If a style does not specify conversion or use "title" then result shoul= d > > be in title case. Title case is recommended for BibTeX databases. If yo= u > > pass string in title case then conversion to title case should not > > change it. You do not need any conversion. > > > > Original BibTeX title should be converted to sentence case only if > > specific style explicitly demand it. > > What I've been arguing for in this thread and what motivates the > current default behavior is that it is a general, style-independent > CSL assumption that the processor's input for title fields is in > sentence-case, and this requires converting the BibLaTeX title fields > in title-case to sentence-case before feeding into the CSL processor > independently of the style -- please refer to my email dated 14 May > for further details and the references therein. > > best wishes, > Andr=C3=A1s