From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Xebar Saram Subject: Re: org-ref in action Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2014 07:27:48 +0300 Message-ID: References: <87wqc4wxbe.fsf@gmail.com> <87fvisbhnb.fsf@fastmail.fm> <87vbrnu5k5.fsf@fastmail.fm> <8761jnu44l.fsf@fastmail.fm> <87zjgzqznw.fsf@fastmail.fm> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8ff1cbca5dee4e04fcc9bb9e Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51691) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X0NlR-0001sC-31 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2014 00:27:54 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X0NlO-0005rW-0P for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2014 00:27:53 -0400 Received: from mail-ob0-x231.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4003:c01::231]:39014) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X0NlN-0005rS-Qz for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jun 2014 00:27:49 -0400 Received: by mail-ob0-f177.google.com with SMTP id uy5so4832916obc.22 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 21:27:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87zjgzqznw.fsf@fastmail.fm> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Matt Lundin Cc: John Kitchin , Alan Schmitt , Fabrice Popineau , "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" , Eric Schulte , Grant Rettke --e89a8ff1cbca5dee4e04fcc9bb9e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi all off topic a bit again. im an academic (asst. prof) in Epidemiology and have been using org-mode for about a year now. i love using org but im really not very technical at all. it has always been a dream for me to ditch word and move over to Latex and even better orgmode to write my scientific publications, writing my CV etc. The problem is i cant really find a good "for dummies" guide on how to really get started. again im really not technical so i always give up really fast on this. Do you guys think i should give it a shot (again not very technical :)) and if so what would be the steps/guides to follow? perhaps start by drafting a CV since thats perhaps easier? kind regards Z. On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 9:44 PM, Matt Lundin wrote: > Alan Schmitt writes: > > > On 2014-06-26 16:39, Matt Lundin writes: > > > >> By contrast, ox-bibtex.el runs citations through bibtex2html, which is > >> pretty much limited to the "old-fashioned" bibtex formats. > > > > What would be required for bibtex2html to take biblatex input? I thought > > the backend format was similar or the same (as you can tell, I know > > nothing of biblatex). > > I don't think this is possible without some major > hacking/conversion/filtering. Biblatex has many more entry types and > fields than bibtex. I've found that most of the older bibtex utils > (bibtools, bibtex2html) choke on my biblatex files. > > Even if biblatex2html did read biblatex data, its output, I believe, is > limited to bibtex styles, which cannot handle more complex formats. Many > scientific journals require bibtex formats. But many humanities > disciplines have more complicated bibliographical requirements that > bibtex cannot handle. > > Best, > Matt > > --e89a8ff1cbca5dee4e04fcc9bb9e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all

off topic a bit again. im an academic (asst. prof) in= Epidemiology and have been using org-mode for about a year now. i love usi= ng org but im really = not very technical at all. it has always been a dream for me to ditch word = and move over to Latex and even better orgmode to write my scientific publications, writing my C= V etc.=C2=A0
The problem is i cant really find a good "for dummies" guide= on how to really get started. again im really not technical so i always give up really fast on = this.

Do you guys think i should give it a shot (again not ve= ry technical :)) and if so what would be the steps/guides to follow? perhap= s start by drafting a CV since thats perhaps easier?

kind regards

Z.

=





On Thu, Jun 26, 2014 at 9:44 PM= , Matt Lundin <mdl@imapmail.org> wrote:
Alan Schmitt <alan.schmitt@polytechnique.org&g= t; writes:

> On 2014-06-26 16:39, Matt Lundin <mdl@imapmail.org> writes:
>
>> By contrast, ox-bibtex.el runs citations through bibtex2html, whic= h is
>> pretty much limited to the "old-fashioned" bibtex format= s.
>
> What would be required for bibtex2html to take biblatex input? I thoug= ht
> the backend format was similar or the same (as you can tell, I know > nothing of biblatex).

I don't think this is possible without some major
hacking/conversion/filtering. Biblatex has many more entry types and
fields than bibtex. I've found that most of the older bibtex utils
(bibtools, bibtex2html) choke on my biblatex files.

Even if biblatex2html did read biblatex data, its output, I believe, is
limited to bibtex styles, which cannot handle more complex formats. Many scientific journals require bibtex formats. But many humanities
disciplines have more complicated bibliographical requirements that
bibtex cannot handle.

Best,
Matt


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