From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Xebar Saram Subject: Re: emacs & org mode for scholars questions Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 15:33:17 +0300 Message-ID: References: <55dbff57.2491420a.591b6.5304@mx.google.com> <55e67518.a931460a.631c4.6af7@mx.google.com> <87vbbtozkt.fsf@gmx.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114820c0fcabd2051ec2de73 Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59431) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZX7EB-00082j-OZ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Sep 2015 08:33:25 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZX7E5-0004wH-Q9 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Sep 2015 08:33:23 -0400 Received: from mail-yk0-x22d.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4002:c07::22d]:33331) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZX7E5-0004vy-Lh for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 02 Sep 2015 08:33:17 -0400 Received: by ykei199 with SMTP id i199so7556569yke.0 for ; Wed, 02 Sep 2015 05:33:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87vbbtozkt.fsf@gmx.us> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Rasmus Cc: org mode --001a114820c0fcabd2051ec2de73 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi the slides are really nice! are they done in org and beamer? best z On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Rasmus wrote: > Hi, > > Erik Hetzner writes: > > > http://www.e6h.org/talks/emacsconf-2015/index.html > > Thanks, I really enjoyed them. One technical question. Why do the flow > of the slides sometimes change from L=E2=86=92R to T=E2=86=92B? It's qui= te confusing and > makes it hard to go back and forth between slides (IMO of course). None > of your slides seem optional. > > If find whom you choose to mention by name in the Org part particular. > E.g. add-on authors are named, the original author isn't mentioned, but > his profession is, ob is mentioned, but the main author isn't mentioned..= . > > > Latex v. plain text > > [...] > > But the [ox] toolchains can be fragile [...] > > {{citation needed}} > > > One thing that I came out of the conference thinking was that a > > curated meta-package for Emacs (like elpy) that brought together tools > > for scholarly writers (in LaTeX and markdown and org-mode) might be a > > great help for Emacs beginners. > > IMO, we should aim to DISTRIBUTE the needed packages *within* Emacs and > have SANE defaults. Even with package.el, maintaining software on a > computer that you do not have full access to, can be a pain. The value o= f > "batteries included" cannot be emphasized enough! Instead of adding > another project to github, it would be better to fix it in Emacs. > > EmacsW32 is great in this regard 'cause it's a just a zip, which you can > use even on constrained systems. I still have to install AUCTEX and ESS > "manually", but at least package.el can handle compressed archives. > > Thanks, > Rasmus > > -- > May contains speling mistake > > > --001a114820c0fcabd2051ec2de73 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi

the slides are really nice! are they= done in org and beamer?

best

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On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us> wrote:
Hi,

Erik Hetzner <egh@e6h.org> writes:=

>=C2=A0 =C2=A0http://www.e6h.org/talks/emacscon= f-2015/index.html

Thanks, I really enjoyed them.=C2=A0 One technical question.=C2=A0 Why do t= he flow
of the slides sometimes change from L=E2=86=92R to T=E2=86=92B?=C2=A0 It= 9;s quite confusing and
makes it hard to go back and forth between slides (IMO of course).=C2=A0 No= ne
of your slides seem optional.

If find whom you choose to mention by name in the Org part particular.
E.g. add-on authors are named, the original author isn't mentioned, but=
his profession is, ob is mentioned, but the main author isn't mentioned= ...

> Latex v. plain text
> [...]
> But the [ox] toolchains can be fragile [...]

{{citation needed}}

> One thing that I came out of the conference thinking was that a
> curated meta-package for Emacs (like elpy) that brought together tools=
> for scholarly writers (in LaTeX and markdown and org-mode) might be a<= br> > great help for Emacs beginners.

IMO, we should aim to DISTRIBUTE the needed packages *within* Emacs = and
have SANE defaults.=C2=A0 Even with package.el, maintaining software on a computer that you do not have full access to, can be a pain.=C2=A0 The valu= e of
"batteries included" cannot be emphasized enough!=C2=A0 Instead o= f adding
another project to github, it would be better to fix it in Emacs.

EmacsW32 is great in this regard 'cause it's a just a zip, which yo= u can
use even on constrained systems.=C2=A0 I still have to install AUCTEX and E= SS
"manually", but at least package.el can handle compressed archive= s.

Thanks,
Rasmus

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May contains speling mistake



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